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M1 Pro 2021 16GB RAM Feels as snappy and impressive as the first day I got it. I never need to close apps, or reboot. I record multitrack audio on it without a

M1 Pro 2021 16GB RAM Feels as snappy and impressive as the first day I got it. I never need to close apps, or reboot. I record multitrack audio on it without any perceptible latency. I write code on it. It's the best computer I've ever owned by a significant margin.

Forgeties79 1mo ago
Hmm same one but mine is clearly deteriorating lately. Lots of beachballs. I think I abused the SSD pretty badly though if I’m being honest. Loading and offloading large media files almost daily for five years lol
ilamont 1mo ago
I have one of these too. I can’t believe how long it’s performed at very high levels of use including two external screens and 10-15 memory intensive applications running concurrently, including three different browsers with multiple tabs open on each. I installed a new video editing application today and was apprehensive it would stumble, but it worked like a champ. The battery indicator is starting to show a decrease in performance. It won’t hold a full charge, but even when I’m without a direct power connection, I can still have it running for nearly 4 hours with Wi-Fi, 6+ without.
crossroadsguy 1mo ago
I have exactly this. Been trying to setup local models. I either end up with something that’s too big for my mac or too small.
echelon 1mo ago
MacBook is great hardware, but I really hate MacOS. It feels perpetually cellophane wrapped, and I don't like any of the window management. Finder is particularly awful too. You should be able to deeply tweak how window management works, but Mac won't let you do that. I'd run Linux on the hardware if it wasn't a hack.
- Fuzzwah 1mo ago
  Rectangle solved my macos window management annoyances. https://rectangleapp.com/ https://rectangleapp.com/ Not involved in dev of this, just a happy user
  - MattSayar 1mo ago
    I also enjoy rectangle, but struggle to find a good Finder replacement. Any recommendations?
    - phatskat 1mo ago
      I don't do enough with finder to mind it's existence, but there's always Midnight Commander
      - bifftastic 1mo ago
        Or dired
    - stergios 1mo ago
      Some of these might fit your finder replacement needs. Swift Salamander: https://salamander.codesurfer.ch/ https://salamander.codesurfer.ch/ Rascal: https://tryrascal.org/ https://tryrascal.org/ or brew install --cask chang-07/tap/rascal Forel: https://github.com/lab421/forel https://github.com/lab421/forel or brew install --cask lab421/tap/forel Hyperkey: https://hyperkey.app https://hyperkey.app Vorssaint: https://vorssaint.com https://vorssaint.com Wick: https://trywick.co https://trywick.co Wisp: https://sulemaanhamza.github.io/ https://sulemaanhamza.github.io/..
      - parkersweb 1mo ago
        I’ve not come across Swift Salamander - and it looks interesting (even if the homepage has all the hallmarks of an AI landing page design). Anyone have any experience of it?
  - 1mo ago
barrell 1mo ago
M1 Pro 2021 16GB RAM as well. However, I live with Activity Monitor open at all times. The computer constantly grinds to a halt, and I have to force quit apps at least 10 times per day. Not really Apple's fault though, just most apps use around 4GB of RAM these days even when they're idle. Some use upwards of 16GB. I've watched the computer slowly get obsoleted over time, not because the hardware is too old, but because software just get's worse every year.
- bayindirh 1mo ago
  But we have AI now! We can just write better software with a single prompt, right? /s
  - lynx97 1mo ago
    How is this comment helpful or interesting?
    - fauigerzigerk 1mo ago
      I mean, you could make a better comment about it, but in my opinion the sarcasm is justified. AI has greatly increased the number of security bugs found on a weekly basis (which is great) and we're getting one of those one-shotted and then immediately abandoned open source "projects" every day (which is useless). And yet there is no indication that any of this new software development capacity is going into improving the quality and efficiency of the software we use on a daily basis. Why is widely used professional software not getting better and more efficient if bug fixing is supposedly so much cheaper now? Is it not worth putting any effort into optimisation at all? I think the reason could be that AI can only do more of what we have done manually before, i.e. more lowest common denominator code. Or am I just too impatient and this is all coming?
      - thewebguyd 1mo ago
        > Or am I just too impatient and this is all coming? I doubt its coming, at least not within the timescale OpenAI or Anthropic would like to believe. If we were close, then we'd see the fruits of that, which like you said, we are seeing the opposite currently. The bottleneck was never writing code, and it still isn't. Writing code is like 15% of the job, but the labs can't tell investors "Yeah we make everyone only 15% more efficient" and still be able to raise trillions in capital. Whatever AI accelerates, the bottleneck is still code review, comprehension, and security debt. Vibe coded slop gets abandoned because non-devs were never going to be able to use AI to make commercial software beyond an MVP. Once your app needs multi-tenant auth, session invalidation, concurrency handling, API changes, graceful degradation under load, etc. natural language prompts will fail. You still need a mental model of how things work. When building a house, lowering the cost of bricks and getting them delivered faster does nothing to speed up the rest of the process that still relies on engineering discipline.
72deluxe 1mo ago
I'm baffled why anyone would think you wouldn't be able to record multi track audio on a modern laptop with SSDs as if it was a difficult task. I had an Alesis HD24 once and that recorded 24 tracks on hard disks, not SSDs.

Forgeties79 1mo ago

Hmm same one but mine is clearly deteriorating lately. Lots of beachballs. I think I abused the SSD pretty badly though if I’m being honest. Loading and offloading large media files almost daily for five years lol

ilamont 1mo ago

I have one of these too. I can’t believe how long it’s performed at very high levels of use including two external screens and 10-15 memory intensive applications running concurrently, including three different browsers with multiple tabs open on each. I installed a new video editing application today and was apprehensive it would stumble, but it worked like a champ. The battery indicator is starting to show a decrease in performance. It won’t hold a full charge, but even when I’m without a direct power connection, I can still have it running for nearly 4 hours with Wi-Fi, 6+ without.

crossroadsguy 1mo ago

I have exactly this. Been trying to setup local models. I either end up with something that’s too big for my mac or too small.

echelon 1mo ago

MacBook is great hardware, but I really hate MacOS. It feels perpetually cellophane wrapped, and I don't like any of the window management. Finder is particularly awful too. You should be able to deeply tweak how window management works, but Mac won't let you do that. I'd run Linux on the hardware if it wasn't a hack.

Fuzzwah 1mo ago
Rectangle solved my macos window management annoyances. https://rectangleapp.com/ https://rectangleapp.com/ Not involved in dev of this, just a happy user
- MattSayar 1mo ago
  I also enjoy rectangle, but struggle to find a good Finder replacement. Any recommendations?
  - phatskat 1mo ago
    I don't do enough with finder to mind it's existence, but there's always Midnight Commander
    - bifftastic 1mo ago
      Or dired
  - stergios 1mo ago
    Some of these might fit your finder replacement needs. Swift Salamander: https://salamander.codesurfer.ch/ https://salamander.codesurfer.ch/ Rascal: https://tryrascal.org/ https://tryrascal.org/ or brew install --cask chang-07/tap/rascal Forel: https://github.com/lab421/forel https://github.com/lab421/forel or brew install --cask lab421/tap/forel Hyperkey: https://hyperkey.app https://hyperkey.app Vorssaint: https://vorssaint.com https://vorssaint.com Wick: https://trywick.co https://trywick.co Wisp: https://sulemaanhamza.github.io/ https://sulemaanhamza.github.io/..
    - parkersweb 1mo ago
      I’ve not come across Swift Salamander - and it looks interesting (even if the homepage has all the hallmarks of an AI landing page design). Anyone have any experience of it?
- 1mo ago

barrell 1mo ago

M1 Pro 2021 16GB RAM as well. However, I live with Activity Monitor open at all times. The computer constantly grinds to a halt, and I have to force quit apps at least 10 times per day. Not really Apple's fault though, just most apps use around 4GB of RAM these days even when they're idle. Some use upwards of 16GB. I've watched the computer slowly get obsoleted over time, not because the hardware is too old, but because software just get's worse every year.

bayindirh 1mo ago
But we have AI now! We can just write better software with a single prompt, right? /s
- lynx97 1mo ago
  How is this comment helpful or interesting?
  - fauigerzigerk 1mo ago
    I mean, you could make a better comment about it, but in my opinion the sarcasm is justified. AI has greatly increased the number of security bugs found on a weekly basis (which is great) and we're getting one of those one-shotted and then immediately abandoned open source "projects" every day (which is useless). And yet there is no indication that any of this new software development capacity is going into improving the quality and efficiency of the software we use on a daily basis. Why is widely used professional software not getting better and more efficient if bug fixing is supposedly so much cheaper now? Is it not worth putting any effort into optimisation at all? I think the reason could be that AI can only do more of what we have done manually before, i.e. more lowest common denominator code. Or am I just too impatient and this is all coming?
    - thewebguyd 1mo ago
      > Or am I just too impatient and this is all coming? I doubt its coming, at least not within the timescale OpenAI or Anthropic would like to believe. If we were close, then we'd see the fruits of that, which like you said, we are seeing the opposite currently. The bottleneck was never writing code, and it still isn't. Writing code is like 15% of the job, but the labs can't tell investors "Yeah we make everyone only 15% more efficient" and still be able to raise trillions in capital. Whatever AI accelerates, the bottleneck is still code review, comprehension, and security debt. Vibe coded slop gets abandoned because non-devs were never going to be able to use AI to make commercial software beyond an MVP. Once your app needs multi-tenant auth, session invalidation, concurrency handling, API changes, graceful degradation under load, etc. natural language prompts will fail. You still need a mental model of how things work. When building a house, lowering the cost of bricks and getting them delivered faster does nothing to speed up the rest of the process that still relies on engineering discipline.

72deluxe 1mo ago

I'm baffled why anyone would think you wouldn't be able to record multi track audio on a modern laptop with SSDs as if it was a difficult task. I had an Alesis HD24 once and that recorded 24 tracks on hard disks, not SSDs.