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I wouldn't even know where to begin, because the slide in quality has permeated every aspect of the operating system, from stability to design. Numerous network

I wouldn't even know where to begin, because the slide in quality has permeated every aspect of the operating system, from stability to design. Numerous networking bugs, SSH agent bugs, sleep state bugs, sometimes having to restart my machine because the network screws up so badly, Bluetooth issues that they keep introducing and then not fixing; I have peripherals that just no longer work due to this. I could go on and on. I could talk about the mobilization of a desktop interface (same mistake the Unity and GNOME teams made) And I don't feel like beating a very dead horse, so just google "macOS Tahoe design issues" and take your pick.

zer0zzz 2mo ago
Why not just stay on the previous 15 release? They still even push updates for it!
- xp84 2mo ago
  Agreed. I have skipped Tahoe and will update to Golden Gate when it's out of beta. I did the same complete skip on "Sonoma," I think. At this point, the complete absence of quality in MacOS releases has turned me from an "update on day one" guy into a "Skip major version updates unless it's widely being praised for improving performance and fixing existing bugs" guy.
- soulofmischief 2mo ago
  I bought a new macbook as insurance against a potential supply chain crash and it came with Tahoe :( On my M2, I have kept it on 15 but Apple aggressively tries to trick me into upgrading in a way that reminds me of Microsoft's behavior with Windows 8/10.
  - zer0zzz 2mo ago
    It's not that bad, pop ups every few months. I just buy older stock or refurbished these days. M1s and M2s are still good enough for me. Recently picked up a refurbished M1 16" because I wanted a larger screen in bed / on the couch for a good price with good condition refurbished from amazon.
    - soulofmischief 2mo ago
      Oh no, it got bad for a while until they received lots of backlash. They literally changed verbiage and tried forcing an update at least once unless you read very carefully in between the lines. They directly and intentionally employed sleight of hand and psychological manipulation to try and force an update in order to meet some misguided OKRs.

zer0zzz 2mo ago

Why not just stay on the previous 15 release? They still even push updates for it!

xp84 2mo ago
Agreed. I have skipped Tahoe and will update to Golden Gate when it's out of beta. I did the same complete skip on "Sonoma," I think. At this point, the complete absence of quality in MacOS releases has turned me from an "update on day one" guy into a "Skip major version updates unless it's widely being praised for improving performance and fixing existing bugs" guy.
soulofmischief 2mo ago
I bought a new macbook as insurance against a potential supply chain crash and it came with Tahoe :( On my M2, I have kept it on 15 but Apple aggressively tries to trick me into upgrading in a way that reminds me of Microsoft's behavior with Windows 8/10.
- zer0zzz 2mo ago
  It's not that bad, pop ups every few months. I just buy older stock or refurbished these days. M1s and M2s are still good enough for me. Recently picked up a refurbished M1 16" because I wanted a larger screen in bed / on the couch for a good price with good condition refurbished from amazon.
  - soulofmischief 2mo ago
    Oh no, it got bad for a while until they received lots of backlash. They literally changed verbiage and tried forcing an update at least once unless you read very carefully in between the lines. They directly and intentionally employed sleight of hand and psychological manipulation to try and force an update in order to meet some misguided OKRs.