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This is not an obsession with hurting animals. It’s survival and earning a living for these Indonesian fishermen. To incentivize them to stop you have to give
by tomasphan 1mo ago
This is not an obsession with hurting animals. It’s survival and earning a living for these Indonesian fishermen.
To incentivize them to stop you have to give them better options.
In this case, teach a man to not fish with explosives and you’ll feed him for the rest of his life.
- xp84 1mo ago> It’s survival and earning a living for these Indonesian fishermen. Why make excuses for greedy jackasses? Their ancestors didn't invent this 5,000 years ago and it's the "oNlY wAy they can survive." They fished without bombs once. Some guy realized this depraved method works, so now lazy people choose to do it so they can get money faster than the people fishing legitimately can. That's why it's illegal.
- tomasphan 1mo agoWe’re just speculating on the economics here so let’s agree to say making it illegal is not fixing the problem.
- DarmokTanagra 1mo agoThese people make a few dollars a week, stop pretending you know anything about their problems and what its like to watch your children go hungry.
- peepee1982 1mo ago5000 years ago was pre-capitalist and if they had struggled getting food on the table and had explosives, they might very well have done the same. In a world where all wealth accumulates at the top and leaves the bottom in precarious conditions, perversions like these are inevitable and could be resolved by treating human needs as priorities and make sure everyone has their needs met, which with todays productivity we could easily accomplish if we all worked together instead of against each other.
- saberience 1mo agoExcept if you keep bombing the corals eventually there will be no fish for anyone, since the reefs are keys to the ecosystem being sustainable in the long term. If you kill the reefs there will be no fish and no fish in the future.
- tomasphan 1mo agoExactly, that’s the last sentence in my original comment.