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Looks like there's a few on the icefall. Follow the line of garbage, then up and across the fall. The only hard part is dealing with the inverted mouse moveme
by jasonkester 14y ago
Looks like there's a few on the icefall. Follow the line of garbage, then up and across the fall. The only hard part is dealing with the inverted mouse movement on the interface. Why would they do that???
- leetrout 14y agoI came to post that- about the mouse movement. It's absolutely driving me nuts. Makes no sense.
- jordan0day 14y agoI think it's just an artifact of pre-tablet era interaction design (not that this software was actually written all that long ago). Nowadays it seems perfectly reasonable to imagine clicking and dragging the image around in order to pan -- I'm not confident that particular interaction would have even occurred to a lot of people a few years ago, though.
- kstenerud 14y agoDrag to pan has been around for decades now. The inverted acceleration-style interface was designed to accomodate a joystick.
- pserwylo 14y agoI would say: Pre Google Maps era. I find it perfectly intuitive to click and drag most online maps around, but it might have been weird the first time I encountered it. For example, I still like to scroll down to go down in a web page, and get confused (and frustrated?) when I use the new mac mice which use the touch-screen/map type scrolling. However I'm quite sure that if I was a mac person, I'd get used to it fairly quickly.
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- sp332 14y agoIt might help if you think of it as directing the camera instead of moving the image. When you click and drag left, you're telling the camera to look to the left.
- recursive 14y agoThat mouse panning convention has existed for at least 15 years in most web browsers. Click the middle mouse button to activate it in any web browser.
- crikli 14y agoYup, I couldn't see anybody higher than the Lhotse Face. Couldn't spot any tents on the South Col. Must be the wrong angle.
- pdeuchler 14y agoI don't know why it's not noted on the controls, but for me Shift -> zoom in, Cmd -> zoom out and arrow keys to move around.
- dsrguru 14y agoThanks! CTRL -> zoom out here on Linux (and presumably Windows)
- rvanniekerk 14y agoCould the garbage you are referring to actually be the camps at the base of the mountain?
- PhrosTT 14y agoFor those looking: 1. Of the 3 mountains, look at the peak of the center one (Lhotse). 2. Below that, the right half is big chunky snow, and the left half is smooth, icey looking snow. 3. Look at the line where the smooth left half meets the chunky right half. - Halfway up that you can find CAMP 3. [You'll see little ant people marching up that centerline - follow them to their tents.] Also once you see CAMP 3, you actually see tracks in the snow. There's a manmade line going diagonally up/left across the center mountain, up the rock face, and then continues up/left to the little snow valley where Everest hits Lhotse along the horizon line. I suppose somewhere around there is CAMP 4.
- monsterix 14y agoWow! Roughly 50 odd people like ants visible up to halfway there and many below near the foot of the central peak.
- Trufa 14y agoI couldn't find it because I couldn't comprehend the sheer size. I came to the the realization that HUMANS ARE TINY, no really, we're insignificant. Thanks for the pointers, never would have found them.
- narrator 14y agoThe best way for you, as a mere mortal, and not some semi-suicidal mountaineer to experience big mountains is to take the bus from Santiago,Chile to Mendoza, Argentina. The trip through the Andes is really awesome. Sometimes you'll see a mountain and have no idea how big it is and then at the very bottom you can just barely make out some ant size cows grazing. Looking down at the bottom of some of the switchbacks on that route is like looking out an airplane window.
- Trufa 14y agoYou seemed to know that I'm from south america, creepy ;) (I'm from Uruguay). I'm going to be living in Austria for the next 6 months so I will have no shortage of mountains there!
- monsterix 14y agoThose are tents, not a line of garbage.
- grhino 14y agoSince not everyone going up the mountain comes back down the mountain and there aren't clean up crews, tents can become garbage.
- monsterix 14y agoYeah, probably a few more giga-pixels and zoom will reveal the bottle caps and cigarette butts in the snow.
- nakedrobot2 14y agoYeah, first thing I do after climbing a mountain is light up a ciggie.
- kemiller 14y agoThere actually was a clean-up expedition in 2000. Lots of oxygen bottles.
- knowaveragejoe 14y agoDoes inverted mean 'move in the direction you want to go'? I thought it was the other way around.
- jwoldan 14y agoYou can reverse the mouse controls with the "Change Controlmode" button. I found the defaults tricky to handle as well.
- hfs 14y agoYou realize the "garbage" is actually a buttload of tents, right?
- RyanMcGreal 14y agoPeople-finder for the lazy: http://i.imgur.com/IIcJL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/IIcJL.jpg
- subpixel 14y agoThere are actually severa more lower down, perhaps people descending.
- chimi 14y agoThere's a little icon at the bottom to "Change Control Mode." Click it and the inversion reverses.
- vitno 14y agothat's not garbage... it's tents.
- fpp 14y agoanyone counted the portable toilet cabins in the base camp(s) - stopped with 58 how do they get those up and down?
- ednc 14y agoThere is a option on the controls at the bottom (2nd button from right - 4 arrows, called change control mode) to 'fix' the mouse navigation direction.
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- city41 14y agoActually the controls are "non-inverted", pull down to look down. Inverted is when you pull down to look up. Non-inverted is now very popular. Most first person shooter games that ship today have non-inverted as the default. I generally find people about my age and older (30 somethings) prefer inverted, but younger people vastly prefer non-inverted.
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- DigitalJack 14y agoMy issue is that I am click dragging to move the view. I feel I should be dragging the image around, not aiming the camera.
- Cthulhu_ 14y agoI believe I mainly have things like flight simulators with inverted controls. But it kinda makes sense there too, since in a plane you pull back (= down) on the stick to go up.
- brunokenj 14y agohttp://postimage.org/image/b584kmjod/ http://postimage.org/image/b584kmjod/ ?
- bayan09 14y agoBecause they're awesome
- ricardobeat 14y agoUse Shift (zoom in), Ctrl (zoom out) and the arrow keys. The interface is similar to RTS games, click and hold to move in that direction, not like maps.