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Ox Alpha – A mysterious new AI model

12 points by vismit2000 2mo ago

phartenfeller 2mo ago
> oxalpha.com is an independent site that gives you a free, no-login chat interface to the Ox Alpha model. Why create a marketing page for someone else? Like it reads just like the typical >>we are the best<<, where you of course don't want to believe the hype. A blog doing a benchmark would be so much more valuable to readers. I am leaving this with more questions than answers.
- gregjw 2mo ago
  i really doubt its for someone else, this will be from their team surely
  - maxcb 2mo ago
    You would think that, right? Here's the full text: > oxalpha.com is an independent site that gives you a free, no-login chat interface to the Ox Alpha model. We are not the model's creators — we're fans of it, like everyone else trying to guess who built it.
  - simonw 2mo ago
    The FAQ says: > We are not the model's creators — we're fans of it, like everyone else trying to guess who built it. Seeing as you can access the model for free in a number of different ways right now - including via OpenRouter https://openrouter.ai/stealth/ox-alpha https://openrouter.ai/stealth/ox-alpha - it's not far fetched for someone to create a free UI on top of that.
    - simonw 2mo ago
      You can use their AdSense token to see other sites by the same operator. This one fits their pattern: https://builtwith.com/relationships/tag/CA-PUB-1851068468056357 https://builtwith.com/relationships/tag/CA-PUB-1851068468056... Sites like: chatgpt4.org picai.com chatai.org aidetector.ai
- sunaurus 2mo ago
  Yeah, something about this whole website is just weird. The way it keeps repeating things like: > Nobody knows who made it — everyone wants to try it. > nobody knows for sure which lab made it. It just comes off untrustworthy, like I am getting scammed somehow. The whole thing being written like typical low signal to noise LLM slop does not help either.
- _hao 2mo ago
  This is like when Eric Weinstein went on Rogan and told him and Jamie about https://pullthatupjamie.com https://pullthatupjamie.com as if he wasn't involved with that at all... Edit: typos
- xffff 2mo ago
  It's like someone registered this domain before and then used AI to create a landing page to ride the wave of popularity.
- yorwba 2mo ago
  SEO juice, malware distribution, harvesting payment information, selling the domain to the real model provider... Lots of ways to make a quick buck. For example, last year when Lightricks released the LTX video model, somebody else registered ltxv.video and got 215 upvotes https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43944974 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43944974 but the Lightricks CTO showed up to inform people that this wasn't their site. It now redirects to ltx.io, so either money changed hands or they filed a trademark dispute.
parting0163 2mo ago
Those task completion percentages cannot possibly be accurate. I have not had anywhere near that amount of success with this model. It is good, but not as good as this page suggests.
walrus01 2mo ago
Curiously the domain has existed since 2022 so either they bought it off a reseller (it was some speculative registration and got parked on a for sale page), or there's some longer term planning involved here. Creation Date: 2022-02-21T22:17:54.00Z
- shishcat 2mo ago
  archive.org: Loading... http://oxalpha.com/ http://oxalpha.com/ | 14:05:51 July 13, 2025 Got an HTTP 302 response at crawl time Redirecting to... https://www.afternic.com/forsale/oxalpha.com?traffic_id=GoDaddy_DLS&traffic_type=TDFS&utm_campaign=TDFS_GoDaddy_DLS&utm_medium=sn_affiliate_click&utm_source=TDFS https://www.afternic.com/forsale/oxalpha.com?traffic_id=GoDa... you have your answer:)))
walrus01 2mo ago
Is there a name for this almost entirely LLM generated website content template? I'm talking about the top navbar, the content layout. Seen the exact same thing so many times now.
- refactor_master 2mo ago
  Bootstrap HTML?
  - KronisLV 2mo ago
    I really liked Bootstrap because it was consistent and usable - making web just a tad easier to navigate. This modern AI website stuff feels obnoxious - annoying short punchy sentences together with paragraphs of text that meander and don’t get to the point, and often also those weird pulsating status indicators for things that have no status etc.
    - walrus01 2mo ago
      The "We're going to animate this and make things weirdly smooth and transparent just because" approach reminds me in a bad way of Windows Vista.
comrade1234 2mo ago
...such a generic web page... designed by Ox?
lapkaaaa 2mo ago
https://dejan.ai/blog/ox-alpha/ https://dejan.ai/blog/ox-alpha/ already been revealed to be GLM
- dejanseo 2mo ago
  Bulls eye! https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.3-flash https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.3-flash
NicoJuicy 2mo ago
Tbh. I think it's a chinese model ( cheap and inefficient in execution, but it's the best cheap ( free ) model atm. Daily driver for my hermes atm, but albeit slow in execution).
- NicoJuicy 2mo ago
  Oh yeah, and the model really prefers reading past sessions before it even starts...
  - NicoJuicy 2mo ago
    And I was right
recursivedoubts 2mo ago
can you please use your mysterious new AI model to fix the back button on your webite?

12 points by vismit2000 2mo ago

> oxalpha.com is an independent site that gives you a free, no-login chat interface to the Ox Alpha model. Why create a marketing page for someone else? Like it reads just like the typical >>we are the best<<, where you of course don't want to believe the hype. A blog doing a benchmark would be so much more valuable to readers. I am leaving this with more questions than answers.

gregjw 2mo ago
i really doubt its for someone else, this will be from their team surely
- maxcb 2mo ago
  You would think that, right? Here's the full text: > oxalpha.com is an independent site that gives you a free, no-login chat interface to the Ox Alpha model. We are not the model's creators — we're fans of it, like everyone else trying to guess who built it.
- simonw 2mo ago
  The FAQ says: > We are not the model's creators — we're fans of it, like everyone else trying to guess who built it. Seeing as you can access the model for free in a number of different ways right now - including via OpenRouter https://openrouter.ai/stealth/ox-alpha https://openrouter.ai/stealth/ox-alpha - it's not far fetched for someone to create a free UI on top of that.
  - simonw 2mo ago
    You can use their AdSense token to see other sites by the same operator. This one fits their pattern: https://builtwith.com/relationships/tag/CA-PUB-1851068468056357 https://builtwith.com/relationships/tag/CA-PUB-1851068468056... Sites like: chatgpt4.org picai.com chatai.org aidetector.ai
sunaurus 2mo ago
Yeah, something about this whole website is just weird. The way it keeps repeating things like: > Nobody knows who made it — everyone wants to try it. > nobody knows for sure which lab made it. It just comes off untrustworthy, like I am getting scammed somehow. The whole thing being written like typical low signal to noise LLM slop does not help either.
_hao 2mo ago
This is like when Eric Weinstein went on Rogan and told him and Jamie about https://pullthatupjamie.com https://pullthatupjamie.com as if he wasn't involved with that at all... Edit: typos
xffff 2mo ago
It's like someone registered this domain before and then used AI to create a landing page to ride the wave of popularity.
yorwba 2mo ago
SEO juice, malware distribution, harvesting payment information, selling the domain to the real model provider... Lots of ways to make a quick buck. For example, last year when Lightricks released the LTX video model, somebody else registered ltxv.video and got 215 upvotes https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43944974 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43944974 but the Lightricks CTO showed up to inform people that this wasn't their site. It now redirects to ltx.io, so either money changed hands or they filed a trademark dispute.

parting0163 2mo ago

Those task completion percentages cannot possibly be accurate. I have not had anywhere near that amount of success with this model. It is good, but not as good as this page suggests.

walrus01 2mo ago

Curiously the domain has existed since 2022 so either they bought it off a reseller (it was some speculative registration and got parked on a for sale page), or there's some longer term planning involved here. Creation Date: 2022-02-21T22:17:54.00Z

shishcat 2mo ago
archive.org: Loading... http://oxalpha.com/ http://oxalpha.com/ | 14:05:51 July 13, 2025 Got an HTTP 302 response at crawl time Redirecting to... https://www.afternic.com/forsale/oxalpha.com?traffic_id=GoDaddy_DLS&traffic_type=TDFS&utm_campaign=TDFS_GoDaddy_DLS&utm_medium=sn_affiliate_click&utm_source=TDFS https://www.afternic.com/forsale/oxalpha.com?traffic_id=GoDa... you have your answer:)))

walrus01 2mo ago

Is there a name for this almost entirely LLM generated website content template? I'm talking about the top navbar, the content layout. Seen the exact same thing so many times now.

refactor_master 2mo ago
Bootstrap HTML?
- KronisLV 2mo ago
  I really liked Bootstrap because it was consistent and usable - making web just a tad easier to navigate. This modern AI website stuff feels obnoxious - annoying short punchy sentences together with paragraphs of text that meander and don’t get to the point, and often also those weird pulsating status indicators for things that have no status etc.
  - walrus01 2mo ago
    The "We're going to animate this and make things weirdly smooth and transparent just because" approach reminds me in a bad way of Windows Vista.

comrade1234 2mo ago

...such a generic web page... designed by Ox?

lapkaaaa 2mo ago

https://dejan.ai/blog/ox-alpha/ https://dejan.ai/blog/ox-alpha/ already been revealed to be GLM

dejanseo 2mo ago
Bulls eye! https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.3-flash https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.3-flash

NicoJuicy 2mo ago

Tbh. I think it's a chinese model ( cheap and inefficient in execution, but it's the best cheap ( free ) model atm. Daily driver for my hermes atm, but albeit slow in execution).

NicoJuicy 2mo ago
Oh yeah, and the model really prefers reading past sessions before it even starts...
- NicoJuicy 2mo ago
  And I was right

recursivedoubts 2mo ago

can you please use your mysterious new AI model to fix the back button on your webite?