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Yes I don't get it why milk is considered more ethically sound than eggs in my country. Milk is stolen baby food extracted industrially under not so nice condit
by srean 2mo ago
Yes I don't get it why milk is considered more ethically sound than eggs in my country. Milk is stolen baby food extracted industrially under not so nice conditions.
Precision-Fermented (animal-Free) milk does exist but it is not easily available.
Unfertilized eggs are products that come out anyway and cannot become a chick till it is successfully fertilized outside of the hen. Granted that these two are extracted industrially under not so nice conditions.
Waiting for good lab grown meat to become cheap.
- colinb 2mo agoYour italicised text is /exactly/ wrong. Hen eggs are fertilised inside the hen’s oviduct. I mean, eggs are somewhat porous after laying, but they’re not that porous. (I don’t know about you. I’m just a programmer holding strong opinions about avian physiology. Maybe there’s an actual biologist on the plane who can correct me)
- srean 2mo agoOh! Thanks for correcting me. Now I learned that the egg is fertilized (if at all) before the shell is formed. The hen would lay the egg anyway fertilization or no fertilization.
- simianparrot 2mo agoSimplified egg laying are the chicken analogue to human female menstruation. It is technically quite different (chickens don’t have a uterus, for one), but it is still analogous.
- shafyy 2mo ago> Waiting for good lab grown meat to become cheap. This is a cop out. There are plenty of excellent plant-based meat alternatives that I'm sure you couldn't tell the difference in a blind test.
- srean 2mo agoCould you point a few out ? I would be eager to try them out if they are available here in India.
- shafyy 2mo agoI'm only familar with the brands in Germany unfortunately. You might have Beyond Burger available in India — not my favorite vegan burger patty, but I think it's good enough.
- messe 2mo agoThe beyond burger is decent, but there's no way it's fooling someone in a blind taste test.
- uxcolumbo 2mo agoIs 100% taste match more important than not supporting an industry that kills Billions of animals a year and on top of that causing a huge amount of greenhouse gases and biosphere destruction? What if it's 85% taste match, wouldn't that be enough to make the jump to plant based alternatives? Male chicks for example get thrown in a wood chipper.
- deepvibrations 2mo agoJust to note, eggs are not as ethical as you may assume... We have bred chickens so that they lay an unhealthy amount of eggs, which is likely a pretty stressful life experience. The original breed of bird (Red junglefowl) laid roughly a dozen eggs a year, where as modern layer hens will lay 300+. So it's not really "comes out anyway". They often get medical conditions like Keel bone fractures and reproductive tract disease and they're also culled at around 18 months when output drops (tiny fraction of their lifespan). Oh and the male chicks don't lay, so roughly one per hen gets killed on day one. I still think overall milk is probably worse, but plant-based is biggest win to reduce suffering overall!
- srean 2mo agoI agree. Their 'living quarters' can be pretty bad too. I was describing their situation as compared to milk.