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Depends on how much you think people actually believe Qanon. This is "We're going to raise a middle finger to the authorities in a form that's hard for them to

Depends on how much you think people actually believe Qanon. This is "We're going to raise a middle finger to the authorities in a form that's hard for them to come down on us, but it's very deliberately against the authorities." Qanon may have been that, too, but my impression is that at least some people really believed it.

kube-system 1mo ago
That’s exactly the same as what is happening here. They’re ideas crazy enough that most people react with “you’re fucking with me, right?” And some people definitely are… but there’s always a cross section of people gullible enough to believe it wholeheartedly, and a large grey area in the middle of people who aren’t sure what to believe. They say a lie can travel around the world while the truth is still lacing up its boots. Part of the reason these things are viral is because their ridiculous nature demands attention. And that attention alone is enough to generate influence.
thataccount 1mo ago
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- AnimalMuppet 1mo ago
  What, specifically, did Fauci say that could be interpreted as "Covid isn't real"?
  - thataccount 1mo ago
    This https://www.foxnews.com/politics/exposed-fauci-diary-shows-estimated-covid-19-death-rate-much-lower-told-congress https://www.foxnews.com/politics/exposed-fauci-diary-shows-e... for starters.
    - AnimalMuppet 1mo ago
      1. "Doesn't have the death rate I publicly stated" is very different from what you claimed. 2. At that time, information about Covid was changing somewhat rapidly. By the time he testified to Congress weeks later, he may well have had better information. (Look, I am very much not a Fauci apologist. But you need to do better than this at finding reasons to condemn him.)
      - thataccount 1mo ago
        1. Inflating death rates to claim something is a pandemic is not very different. It was at worst a "bad flu," which is what many Q posts were indicating. You don't need a lockdown for a "Bad flu". You also don't need masks. 2. You seem to think I need to do better than this, but if this were a trial what I have provided is sufficient to establish motive. The dude wanted to be famous, and didn't mind who died to get him there or what kind of lies he needed to tell to climb that mountain.
        cosmicgadget 1mo ago
        > It was at worst a "bad flu," Incorrect. > The dude wanted to be famous Hilarious on the heels of "I just won this trial I made up".
        thataccount 1mo ago
        Nuh uh is not a conversation, and it is clear he was tracking how famous he had become. The reason he was not on trial in a common way is because he was pardoned—which in this case it is clear is because he was involved in crimes against humanity.
        cosmicgadget 1mo ago
        Nuh uh is a fact, it doesn't require a conversation. This DOJ would definitely be prosecuting him, that isn't saying very much.
        1mo ago

kube-system 1mo ago

That’s exactly the same as what is happening here. They’re ideas crazy enough that most people react with “you’re fucking with me, right?” And some people definitely are… but there’s always a cross section of people gullible enough to believe it wholeheartedly, and a large grey area in the middle of people who aren’t sure what to believe. They say a lie can travel around the world while the truth is still lacing up its boots. Part of the reason these things are viral is because their ridiculous nature demands attention. And that attention alone is enough to generate influence.

thataccount 1mo ago

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AnimalMuppet 1mo ago
What, specifically, did Fauci say that could be interpreted as "Covid isn't real"?
- thataccount 1mo ago
  This https://www.foxnews.com/politics/exposed-fauci-diary-shows-estimated-covid-19-death-rate-much-lower-told-congress https://www.foxnews.com/politics/exposed-fauci-diary-shows-e... for starters.
  - AnimalMuppet 1mo ago
    1. "Doesn't have the death rate I publicly stated" is very different from what you claimed. 2. At that time, information about Covid was changing somewhat rapidly. By the time he testified to Congress weeks later, he may well have had better information. (Look, I am very much not a Fauci apologist. But you need to do better than this at finding reasons to condemn him.)
    - thataccount 1mo ago
      1. Inflating death rates to claim something is a pandemic is not very different. It was at worst a "bad flu," which is what many Q posts were indicating. You don't need a lockdown for a "Bad flu". You also don't need masks. 2. You seem to think I need to do better than this, but if this were a trial what I have provided is sufficient to establish motive. The dude wanted to be famous, and didn't mind who died to get him there or what kind of lies he needed to tell to climb that mountain.
      - cosmicgadget 1mo ago
        > It was at worst a "bad flu," Incorrect. > The dude wanted to be famous Hilarious on the heels of "I just won this trial I made up".
        thataccount 1mo ago
        Nuh uh is not a conversation, and it is clear he was tracking how famous he had become. The reason he was not on trial in a common way is because he was pardoned—which in this case it is clear is because he was involved in crimes against humanity.
        cosmicgadget 1mo ago
        Nuh uh is a fact, it doesn't require a conversation. This DOJ would definitely be prosecuting him, that isn't saying very much.
        1mo ago