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United States: 384 gCO2/kWh China: 525 gCO2/kWh https://ourworldindata.org/electricity-mix https://ourworldindata.org/electricity-mix
by UltraSane 2mo ago
United States: 384 gCO2/kWh
China: 525 gCO2/kWh
https://ourworldindata.org/electricity-mix https://ourworldindata.org/electricity-mix
- AngryData 2mo agoBut we do have to consider how the speed in which it is dropping. China uses about the same percentage of fossil fuels for energy production as the US right now, but more of it is coal so it is dirtier. However they are aggressively installing and promoting renewables and nuclear power, built themselves, and their pollution standards are rapidly increasing. While in the US renewable and nuclear investment is and has been pretty crappy.
- Grombobulous 2mo agoThe fact that China is not that far above the US while being the world's factory and having 4x the population is pretty impressive. And like you said, China is putting a real effort in. I don't see the US trying to reduce domestic short hop flights with electric high speed rail. I don't see the US trying to replace gasoline cars with EVs. I don't see the US curtailing structural incentivization of pickup trucks and SUVs. The main US policy seems to be "spend trillions on wars for oil" rather than accepting the inevitable decline of oil and planning around it.
- creativeSlumber 2mo agoThis comparison is meaningless because China is the worlds factory (including a major portion of what's consumed in the US ). So that CO2 number is their populations usage plus what's required to manufacture good for the most of the world. A huge part of US CO2 consumption has been outsourced to China.
- queenkjuul 1mo ago4x the people and 10x the industrial output for less than 2x the carbon? Incredible efficiency