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History will see last years as EU that turned Europe -suicidal for own energy industry and economy via green deal without real impact for the world (see EU vs

History will see last years as EU that turned Europe -suicidal for own energy industry and economy via green deal without real impact for the world (see EU vs World/ China CO2 emisions chart) -demographically/socially suicidal via open borders and stupidly generous social benefits for immigrants instead of supporting own families -going back in time via overregulation of every aspect of our lives -becoming police state/s via overcontrol -hypocritical via outsourcing industries and making carbon footprint in other parts of the world -internally weak via not protecting european values over immigrants "rights" and terror mongering (p.e. Xmas markets canceled on many places) -supresing democracy via online censorship (DSA) -juicing own people via over-taxation (exit taxes and unrealized gains taxes) -being stowaway in terms of own external security (majority of states didn't fulfill NATO requirements in terms of GDP's percentage spent on military...well this actually is one thing that improves over the years, but Europe needed a kick from east and west to becoming adult here after years of underspending) All in all, EU controlling Europe is committing civilizational suicide, living off past merits which results/capacity are running low while morally lecturing the rest. At the same time also destroying the very foundations that made Europe prosperous. History will likely look back at us as we/Europe voluntarily chose decline. ps. the fact that I had to check if any claim made is not illegal, shows how far with censorship we already are. Freedom of speech cant be regulated without being lost.

reillyse 1mo ago
Little hysterical no? Everywhere has their problems, I think Europe is doing fine. Where do you think is a model society ?
- Razengan 1mo ago
  Uranus, where I have announced myself as undisputed leader.
  - reillyse 1mo ago
    In light of your unilateral pronouncement, I’d like to deliver my own message to all the loyal residents of Anuses everywhere… this too shall pass.
  - fakedang 1mo ago
    As Supreme overlord of Saturn, I soundly dispute your assertion.
- svobodamartin 1mo ago
  Its a frustration and seeing things, that cant be unseen, speaking.. I don't know where model is, but what would be ideal: valuing own history, values, societies over not own, being strong outwardly and soft inwardly/on own people (not vice versa as is now), being practical and forward thinking over posing as a "leader in regulation" with suppressing everything meaningful hangover. There are tons of examples of strategically bad political decisions with long term broad consequences. Reminds me of "everything is fine" meme.
  - reillyse 1mo ago
    What country in Europe are you referring to? Your objections seem to be quite broad and lack focus but seem to be alluding to the specific. Give me an example of what you mean? I think leadership is hard. I’m not sure I buy the idea that a group of countries should be “hard” on anyone.
    - svobodamartin 1mo ago
      Political decision to close modern nuclear powerplants without replacement - Germany. Experts made a petition to reopen them. Migration - EU failed for many years to protect its border against illegal imigration - millions came, half a mil now legalized in Spain. Overregulation - EU institutions themselves now acknowledge that regulatory and administrative burdens are hurting EU competitivenes "Integration"/security - imigrants choose rich countries with good social benefits while in some areas inner security drops (car attacks, knife attacks, ra*es) Greendeal-carbon pricing paid by industries to meet strict quotas, soon also paid by households, very expensive for europeans while having near zero effect on global emmisions in commparisson to China/rest of the world aka too much pain/costs for "nothing". Digital regulation - via DSA, fight against so called "hate speech" and "disinformation" Unrealized gains taxes - Netherlands Exit taxes - France, Germany, Denmark, Netherlands, Spain, Belgium (conditions vary in each coountry). Demographical colapse - all EU countries have born rate below replacement level 2.1 (average 1.34 for EU in 2024) Strategic dependency - Europe made itself super dependent on Russia for energy and from military POV on USA, both of these dependencies are now being painfully corrected Digital ID/CBDC: EU is building digital ID and digital euro, tools with obvious future potential for surveillance and control. Concerning being "hard" I meant mainly protecting our borders, being hard on enforcing them and our own laws equally on everybody, being strong independent just Europe in general Obviously I am no expert in (geo)politics, just an average Joe observing concerning tendencies and not liking direction EU is heading.
brazukadev 1mo ago
> All in all, EU controlling Europe is committing civilizational suicide, living off past merits The excessive prosperity ended together with the end of the colonization era (there are still a lot of european colonies but they aren't enough to make Europe rich). Losing access to shamelessly cheap resources naturally and forced customers impoverished Europe and this process is still going. Same thing would be happening with the US thus the aggressiveness now.
UnwrapComment 1mo ago
> -demographically/socially suicidal via open borders and stupidly generous social benefits for immigrants instead of supporting own families Could you tell me how you brought immigrants to this and found them to be the problem?
pepperoni_pizza 1mo ago
Thanks mister dezolat, now go back to facebook with your collection of fascist dog whistles.

reillyse 1mo ago

Little hysterical no? Everywhere has their problems, I think Europe is doing fine. Where do you think is a model society ?

Razengan 1mo ago
Uranus, where I have announced myself as undisputed leader.
- reillyse 1mo ago
  In light of your unilateral pronouncement, I’d like to deliver my own message to all the loyal residents of Anuses everywhere… this too shall pass.
- fakedang 1mo ago
  As Supreme overlord of Saturn, I soundly dispute your assertion.
svobodamartin 1mo ago
Its a frustration and seeing things, that cant be unseen, speaking.. I don't know where model is, but what would be ideal: valuing own history, values, societies over not own, being strong outwardly and soft inwardly/on own people (not vice versa as is now), being practical and forward thinking over posing as a "leader in regulation" with suppressing everything meaningful hangover. There are tons of examples of strategically bad political decisions with long term broad consequences. Reminds me of "everything is fine" meme.
- reillyse 1mo ago
  What country in Europe are you referring to? Your objections seem to be quite broad and lack focus but seem to be alluding to the specific. Give me an example of what you mean? I think leadership is hard. I’m not sure I buy the idea that a group of countries should be “hard” on anyone.
  - svobodamartin 1mo ago
    Political decision to close modern nuclear powerplants without replacement - Germany. Experts made a petition to reopen them. Migration - EU failed for many years to protect its border against illegal imigration - millions came, half a mil now legalized in Spain. Overregulation - EU institutions themselves now acknowledge that regulatory and administrative burdens are hurting EU competitivenes "Integration"/security - imigrants choose rich countries with good social benefits while in some areas inner security drops (car attacks, knife attacks, ra*es) Greendeal-carbon pricing paid by industries to meet strict quotas, soon also paid by households, very expensive for europeans while having near zero effect on global emmisions in commparisson to China/rest of the world aka too much pain/costs for "nothing". Digital regulation - via DSA, fight against so called "hate speech" and "disinformation" Unrealized gains taxes - Netherlands Exit taxes - France, Germany, Denmark, Netherlands, Spain, Belgium (conditions vary in each coountry). Demographical colapse - all EU countries have born rate below replacement level 2.1 (average 1.34 for EU in 2024) Strategic dependency - Europe made itself super dependent on Russia for energy and from military POV on USA, both of these dependencies are now being painfully corrected Digital ID/CBDC: EU is building digital ID and digital euro, tools with obvious future potential for surveillance and control. Concerning being "hard" I meant mainly protecting our borders, being hard on enforcing them and our own laws equally on everybody, being strong independent just Europe in general Obviously I am no expert in (geo)politics, just an average Joe observing concerning tendencies and not liking direction EU is heading.

brazukadev 1mo ago

> All in all, EU controlling Europe is committing civilizational suicide, living off past merits The excessive prosperity ended together with the end of the colonization era (there are still a lot of european colonies but they aren't enough to make Europe rich). Losing access to shamelessly cheap resources naturally and forced customers impoverished Europe and this process is still going. Same thing would be happening with the US thus the aggressiveness now.

UnwrapComment 1mo ago

> -demographically/socially suicidal via open borders and stupidly generous social benefits for immigrants instead of supporting own families Could you tell me how you brought immigrants to this and found them to be the problem?

pepperoni_pizza 1mo ago

Thanks mister dezolat, now go back to facebook with your collection of fascist dog whistles.