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some chinese youtubers have posted their test results, seems pretty good, but the devices have been provided to them in advance fwiw

by cyp0633 1mo ago

StilesCrisis 1mo ago
I'm sure it benchmarks well, but does it actually have good battery life?
- frollogaston 1mo ago
  Even aside from battery life, high TDP means thermal throttling under sustained load. Which most of these benchmarks don't really test, or if they did, the ambient temperature affects the results.
  - sorz 1mo ago
    They do test continuous (1-hour) gaming performance in controlled environment regularly. Thermal throttling can be easily spotted on the frame rate vs time graph.
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- well_ackshually 1mo ago
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  - StilesCrisis 1mo ago
    The goalposts have been at "performance-per-watt" for a very, very long time. That was why Apple pivoted from PowerPC to Intel, believe it or not. PowerPC laptops couldn't match the battery life of Intel, so Apple pivoted. How times change!
  - KerrAvon 1mo ago
    top comment right now on this very page: "But actual results inside phone with smartphone cooling and wattage requirement became close to 3300"
    - well_ackshually 1mo ago
      No lmao, top comment is saying MediaTek's variant of an ARM C1 Ultra dropped to 3300, attempting to link it to this CPU through vibes and magic
  - strictnein 1mo ago
    I mean, they're in a thread on my comment whose point is "let's see power per watt". The goalposts started there. A comment responded to me by saying some Chinese youtubers found it to be good. The person responded saying "but what about battery life" which was the original topic. The person you're responding to also has never said anything about any other metric.
mort96 1mo ago
Did their test results include power draw?
- throwa356262 1mo ago
  Yes, and it looked pretty good for an engineering sample. See this video from chineese youtubeer geerkerwan: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BCCJuOopLK8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BCCJuOopLK8
  - mort96 1mo ago
    Oh, so we're at the "good for an engineering sample" stage not "competitive with Apple" stage
    - throwa356262 1mo ago
      Not sure what you mean, but production silicon will be used in their phones next month.
      - mort96 1mo ago
        I mean that we don't have numbers for how this competes with Apple

some chinese youtubers have posted their test results, seems pretty good, but the devices have been provided to them in advance fwiw

by cyp0633 1mo ago

some chinese youtubers have posted their test results, seems pretty good, but the devices have been provided to them in advance fwiw

StilesCrisis 1mo ago

I'm sure it benchmarks well, but does it actually have good battery life?

frollogaston 1mo ago
Even aside from battery life, high TDP means thermal throttling under sustained load. Which most of these benchmarks don't really test, or if they did, the ambient temperature affects the results.
- sorz 1mo ago
  They do test continuous (1-hour) gaming performance in controlled environment regularly. Thermal throttling can be easily spotted on the frame rate vs time graph.
  - deleted 1mo ago
    [deleted]
well_ackshually 1mo ago
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- StilesCrisis 1mo ago
  The goalposts have been at "performance-per-watt" for a very, very long time. That was why Apple pivoted from PowerPC to Intel, believe it or not. PowerPC laptops couldn't match the battery life of Intel, so Apple pivoted. How times change!
- KerrAvon 1mo ago
  top comment right now on this very page: "But actual results inside phone with smartphone cooling and wattage requirement became close to 3300"
  - well_ackshually 1mo ago
    No lmao, top comment is saying MediaTek's variant of an ARM C1 Ultra dropped to 3300, attempting to link it to this CPU through vibes and magic
- strictnein 1mo ago
  I mean, they're in a thread on my comment whose point is "let's see power per watt". The goalposts started there. A comment responded to me by saying some Chinese youtubers found it to be good. The person responded saying "but what about battery life" which was the original topic. The person you're responding to also has never said anything about any other metric.

mort96 1mo ago

Did their test results include power draw?

throwa356262 1mo ago
Yes, and it looked pretty good for an engineering sample. See this video from chineese youtubeer geerkerwan: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BCCJuOopLK8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BCCJuOopLK8
- mort96 1mo ago
  Oh, so we're at the "good for an engineering sample" stage not "competitive with Apple" stage
  - throwa356262 1mo ago
    Not sure what you mean, but production silicon will be used in their phones next month.
    - mort96 1mo ago
      I mean that we don't have numbers for how this competes with Apple