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Laws are voted by politicians. Do you mean that most EU politicians are puppets of EU corporations?

yturijea 1mo ago
That might be one reason they refuse to be open about their financial supports in their various organizations yes. it is very well known unfortunately..
monegator 1mo ago
It's usually US corpos that are lobbying all over the EU, it's unlikely that the EU automakers would have lobbied for their destruction
Lutger 1mo ago
Its not as bad as in the US I think, but yeah, most of the laws are actually (literally) written by corporations. I wouldn't call them puppets, but EU corps have an outsized influence on the outcome of the process.
- runarberg 1mo ago
  I don‘t know about EU laws specifically, but national law in Europe is often written by lobby firms in favor of their corporate sponsors. In Iceland for example the main corporate lobby is called Viðskiptaráð, and they brag about the high percentage of laws they write passing at the parliament (in 2007 it was like 90%). I don‘t think things are much different in the rest of Europe (maybe just less obvious due to size differences).
Eddy_Viscosity2 1mo ago
EU politicians seemed to be fairly captured by corporations generally. Less so than politicians from the countries themselves. Voting turnout for EU representatives is very low compared with voting for local officials. I think its because people know that who they vote for as their chancellor or prime minister can make a big impact on their lives. They see the EU parliament as this distant thing and don't follow it so much. EU representatives therefore don't have as much accountability and can more easily be swayed by lobbying. How else can you explain the whole chat control thing which everyone hates but still keeps getting pushed through. Like who is voting for this a-holes.
- nico_h 1mo ago
  It passed on a technicality of present reps voted against in majority but not enough total votes because the president had triggered a special vote for the last session before recess when less reps are present.
  - Eddy_Viscosity2 1mo ago
    Was even one representative that voted for this from a region where the people that they represent wanted it by even the slimmest of majorities? I don't think so. These votes were in full defiance of their constituents.
kingleopold 1mo ago
Yes and mostly European elite and royal families. Royal families and their friends have strong power across Europe but they are well hidden via media.
techpression 1mo ago
The entire purpose of EU is trade (trading nations don't go to war etc), trade is more or less defined by large corporations, it's through that lens every decision is made and measured.
yardie 1mo ago
The one thing EU politicians hate is disruption. Entrepreneurs are fresh entrants trying to disrupt an existing market. The politicians don't even need to be puppets. The fact that these small startups exist and may even succeed is reason enough.
- throw-the-towel 1mo ago
  I'd say this is not limited to the politicians.
psychoslave 1mo ago
Nothing specific to EU here except the specific point is about EU this time. Otherwise just copy paste "most EU politicians are puppets of EU corporations" in some search engine and enjoy, here are the top result of such a search: https://rednetwork.net/articles/2026/06/how-corporations-setting-agenda-irelands-eu-presidency/ https://rednetwork.net/articles/2026/06/how-corporations-set... https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/eu-leaders-puppets-of-financial-corporations-and-deep-state-want-the-conflict-to-continue-at-all-costs/ https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/eu-leaders-puppets-of-financia... https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_are_the_reasons_behind_puppetism_in_politics_and_cruelty_against_humanity https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_are_the_reasons_behin... https://edwardshepherd.substack.com/p/the-puppets-and-their-masters-how https://edwardshepherd.substack.com/p/the-puppets-and-their-... https://www.lobbycontrol.de/wp-content/uploads/EU-Lobbyreport-2024-summary-LobbyControl.pdf https://www.lobbycontrol.de/wp-content/uploads/EU-Lobbyrepor... Now looking up for "EU politicians are prised for their probity and strong attachment to defend their people" here are the top results: https://www.transparency.org/en/news/political-corruption-in-europe-threat-to-public-funds-integrity-watch https://www.transparency.org/en/news/political-corruption-in... https://www.ftm.eu/articles/european-parliamentarians-involved-in-hundreds-of-scandals https://www.ftm.eu/articles/european-parliamentarians-involv... https://www.eupublicintegrity.com/what-is-public-integrity-in-europe-and-why-it-matters-today/ https://www.eupublicintegrity.com/what-is-public-integrity-i... https://www.politico.eu/article/european-union-corruption-pfizergate-ursula-von-der-leyen-impunity/ https://www.politico.eu/article/european-union-corruption-pf... https://www.economist.com/europe/2026/04/29/europes-unpopular-leaders-are-paralysing-the-eu https://www.economist.com/europe/2026/04/29/europes-unpopula... So even searching specifically for praising information, one will have to dig deep apparently, or maybe go straight to the official propaganda of what the politicians say about themselves (but probably less so about others). Everyone is free to go as deep as they want (and can afford) and draw their own conclusions.
Saline9515 1mo ago
There are more lobbyists in Brussels that EU public servants. I guess that corpos don't spend this kind of big money for nothing.

That might be one reason they refuse to be open about their financial supports in their various organizations yes. it is very well known unfortunately..

monegator 1mo ago

It's usually US corpos that are lobbying all over the EU, it's unlikely that the EU automakers would have lobbied for their destruction

Lutger 1mo ago

Its not as bad as in the US I think, but yeah, most of the laws are actually (literally) written by corporations. I wouldn't call them puppets, but EU corps have an outsized influence on the outcome of the process.

runarberg 1mo ago
I don‘t know about EU laws specifically, but national law in Europe is often written by lobby firms in favor of their corporate sponsors. In Iceland for example the main corporate lobby is called Viðskiptaráð, and they brag about the high percentage of laws they write passing at the parliament (in 2007 it was like 90%). I don‘t think things are much different in the rest of Europe (maybe just less obvious due to size differences).

Eddy_Viscosity2 1mo ago

EU politicians seemed to be fairly captured by corporations generally. Less so than politicians from the countries themselves. Voting turnout for EU representatives is very low compared with voting for local officials. I think its because people know that who they vote for as their chancellor or prime minister can make a big impact on their lives. They see the EU parliament as this distant thing and don't follow it so much. EU representatives therefore don't have as much accountability and can more easily be swayed by lobbying. How else can you explain the whole chat control thing which everyone hates but still keeps getting pushed through. Like who is voting for this a-holes.

nico_h 1mo ago
It passed on a technicality of present reps voted against in majority but not enough total votes because the president had triggered a special vote for the last session before recess when less reps are present.
- Eddy_Viscosity2 1mo ago
  Was even one representative that voted for this from a region where the people that they represent wanted it by even the slimmest of majorities? I don't think so. These votes were in full defiance of their constituents.

kingleopold 1mo ago

Yes and mostly European elite and royal families. Royal families and their friends have strong power across Europe but they are well hidden via media.

techpression 1mo ago

The entire purpose of EU is trade (trading nations don't go to war etc), trade is more or less defined by large corporations, it's through that lens every decision is made and measured.

yardie 1mo ago

The one thing EU politicians hate is disruption. Entrepreneurs are fresh entrants trying to disrupt an existing market. The politicians don't even need to be puppets. The fact that these small startups exist and may even succeed is reason enough.

throw-the-towel 1mo ago
I'd say this is not limited to the politicians.

psychoslave 1mo ago

Nothing specific to EU here except the specific point is about EU this time. Otherwise just copy paste "most EU politicians are puppets of EU corporations" in some search engine and enjoy, here are the top result of such a search: https://rednetwork.net/articles/2026/06/how-corporations-setting-agenda-irelands-eu-presidency/ https://rednetwork.net/articles/2026/06/how-corporations-set... https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/eu-leaders-puppets-of-financial-corporations-and-deep-state-want-the-conflict-to-continue-at-all-costs/ https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/eu-leaders-puppets-of-financia... https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_are_the_reasons_behind_puppetism_in_politics_and_cruelty_against_humanity https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_are_the_reasons_behin... https://edwardshepherd.substack.com/p/the-puppets-and-their-masters-how https://edwardshepherd.substack.com/p/the-puppets-and-their-... https://www.lobbycontrol.de/wp-content/uploads/EU-Lobbyreport-2024-summary-LobbyControl.pdf https://www.lobbycontrol.de/wp-content/uploads/EU-Lobbyrepor... Now looking up for "EU politicians are prised for their probity and strong attachment to defend their people" here are the top results: https://www.transparency.org/en/news/political-corruption-in-europe-threat-to-public-funds-integrity-watch https://www.transparency.org/en/news/political-corruption-in... https://www.ftm.eu/articles/european-parliamentarians-involved-in-hundreds-of-scandals https://www.ftm.eu/articles/european-parliamentarians-involv... https://www.eupublicintegrity.com/what-is-public-integrity-in-europe-and-why-it-matters-today/ https://www.eupublicintegrity.com/what-is-public-integrity-i... https://www.politico.eu/article/european-union-corruption-pfizergate-ursula-von-der-leyen-impunity/ https://www.politico.eu/article/european-union-corruption-pf... https://www.economist.com/europe/2026/04/29/europes-unpopular-leaders-are-paralysing-the-eu https://www.economist.com/europe/2026/04/29/europes-unpopula... So even searching specifically for praising information, one will have to dig deep apparently, or maybe go straight to the official propaganda of what the politicians say about themselves (but probably less so about others). Everyone is free to go as deep as they want (and can afford) and draw their own conclusions.

Saline9515 1mo ago

There are more lobbyists in Brussels that EU public servants. I guess that corpos don't spend this kind of big money for nothing.