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> given that developers are the one group of people today that don't generally have a problem running Linux on the desktop. I am a developer; and I do have a p

by azangru 1mo ago

> given that developers are the one group of people today that don't generally have a problem running Linux on the desktop. I am a developer; and I do have a problem: I don't have a choice of good laptops that are guaranteed to work with linux, and preferably come with linux preinstalled. I can go buy a macbook, or a windows laptop; but I can't walk into a store and buy a linux laptop.

dgellow 1mo ago
Framework?
ofrzeta 1mo ago
System76 is guaranteed to work, right? Also preinstalled if you like. Then there's also Tuxedo (which I understand are only rebranded chinese OEMs but still...)
- dijit 1mo ago
  I don't know any store that actually has system76 laptops, and even we take "online" as a store (I don't) - the laptops are unfortunately not competitive at all. The sibling comment that suggests framework is much stronger in this respect, and it's a name brand which might actually get the buyers at large stores to take some notice. Here's hoping.
  - azangru 1mo ago
    Well, DHH managed to attract Dell, which are kinda sorta promising through a single representative that their new XPS laptops are fully tested with Omarchy: https://www.youtube.com/live/Bic2KjFFj6w?si=g0wyGBQi63NmhWr5&t=18095 https://www.youtube.com/live/Bic2KjFFj6w?si=g0wyGBQi63NmhWr5... So that's encouraging. But still, I don't see any acknowledgement on the Dell site (apart from a single blog post) about their stance on supporting and testing linux on their laptops.
    - roryirvine 1mo ago
      Dell have pre-installed & fully supported Ubuntu on a bunch of their Precision, XPS, and, more recently, Pro laptops for over a decade now. Those supported models are always a good choice for running other Linux distros, too (I've run a vanilla Debian on 3 different models during that time without having the do anything special). As I understand it, Omarchy isn't really doing any low-level development work - it's just an opinionated set of defaults & various non-free add-ons on top of Arch. Any laptop supported by Arch will work.
      - ofrzeta 1mo ago
        Here you can see which Laptops are "certified" for Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com/certified/laptops https://ubuntu.com/certified/laptops From my experience most of the support hinges on the WiFi chipset, so some Dells have great support while others have none.
      - soundnote 28d ago
        They do ship a custom kernel specifically to improve XPS support.
- azangru 1mo ago
  > Then there's also Tuxedo (which I understand are only rebranded chinese OEMs but still...) My understanding is that System76 is also a rebranded Chinese/Taiwanese OEM.
hardbass 1mo ago
Do you disagree with including Dell due to hardware quality?

by azangru 1mo ago

dgellow 1mo ago

Framework?

ofrzeta 1mo ago

System76 is guaranteed to work, right? Also preinstalled if you like. Then there's also Tuxedo (which I understand are only rebranded chinese OEMs but still...)

dijit 1mo ago
I don't know any store that actually has system76 laptops, and even we take "online" as a store (I don't) - the laptops are unfortunately not competitive at all. The sibling comment that suggests framework is much stronger in this respect, and it's a name brand which might actually get the buyers at large stores to take some notice. Here's hoping.
- azangru 1mo ago
  Well, DHH managed to attract Dell, which are kinda sorta promising through a single representative that their new XPS laptops are fully tested with Omarchy: https://www.youtube.com/live/Bic2KjFFj6w?si=g0wyGBQi63NmhWr5&t=18095 https://www.youtube.com/live/Bic2KjFFj6w?si=g0wyGBQi63NmhWr5... So that's encouraging. But still, I don't see any acknowledgement on the Dell site (apart from a single blog post) about their stance on supporting and testing linux on their laptops.
  - roryirvine 1mo ago
    Dell have pre-installed & fully supported Ubuntu on a bunch of their Precision, XPS, and, more recently, Pro laptops for over a decade now. Those supported models are always a good choice for running other Linux distros, too (I've run a vanilla Debian on 3 different models during that time without having the do anything special). As I understand it, Omarchy isn't really doing any low-level development work - it's just an opinionated set of defaults & various non-free add-ons on top of Arch. Any laptop supported by Arch will work.
    - ofrzeta 1mo ago
      Here you can see which Laptops are "certified" for Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com/certified/laptops https://ubuntu.com/certified/laptops From my experience most of the support hinges on the WiFi chipset, so some Dells have great support while others have none.
    - soundnote 28d ago
      They do ship a custom kernel specifically to improve XPS support.
azangru 1mo ago
> Then there's also Tuxedo (which I understand are only rebranded chinese OEMs but still...) My understanding is that System76 is also a rebranded Chinese/Taiwanese OEM.

hardbass 1mo ago

Do you disagree with including Dell due to hardware quality?