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> classic Linux culture. Where there's been a strong belief that everyone should know everything about all of their tools, and that they should preferably confi

> classic Linux culture. Where there's been a strong belief that everyone should know everything about all of their tools, and that they should preferably configure every last one from them from scratch. Huh, what Linux culture is this Ruby-on-Rails fanboi talking about? Arch Linux I guess comes closest to it, but still isn't "everyone has to know everything about all tools", but I guess if you're launching some closed source platform or whatever the author is up to, you probably want it to sound like Linux forces you to know everything about everything, so you can sell your service to the people who don't want that. Good luck I guess. This reads as a blogpost from someone who is mad at Linux for some reason, yet cannot fully describe why?

hombre_fatal 2mo ago
He's talking about Linux neckbeards and gatekeepers, not, say, cultural idiosyncrasies of any given distro.
- embedding-shape 2mo ago
  None of them, at least the one's I've encountered in my 20 something years, have had the idea of "everyone has to know everything about all tools", although they've certainly been annoying in other ways.
  - hombre_fatal 2mo ago
    There's some hyperbole but his point is obvious to me from hanging out in forums and IRC channels over the years, or reading snarky "umm, I'm confused...?" quote-tweets for certain Omarchy posts about how Omarchy is just quickshell hyprland rice. I used to use an old omakase version of Debian called Crunchbang in uni (https://crunchbang.org/ https://crunchbang.org/) and there was always someone around to make the remark that you'd only use it if you couldn't read manpages. Or Dropbox seems pointless because you can build it trivially by mounting an ftp location with curlftpfs + svn.
    - mtrovo 2mo ago
      This is so true and one of the reasons why I think the "Linux Desktop" will always fail as long as it's marketed as "Linux Desktop". There's a clear market for "good enough" Linux boxes for coders and casual Chromebook-style usage (Steam Machine style) that's constantly bullied by the "you should read the manpage before posting" crowd.
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aquariusDue 2mo ago
Yeah... KDE, GNOME and soon COSMIC will be fine for most people. Ricing IS fun but this is more similar to taking a kitted out car that used to belong to your cousin to the car meet, part of the culture is stumbling around forums and asking around. There's been stuff in the past like Regolith that did similar things but now a semi-famous person is spearheading this so everybody wooos and ahhhs. Yes, I am salty.
skydhash 2mo ago
>> classic Linux culture. Where there's been a strong belief that everyone should know everything about all of their tools, That’s weird, imagine saying to mechanics, artists,… to not learn all about their tools.
- Yiin 1mo ago
  I guess that's why he's not saying that to mechanics and artists
kibibu 2mo ago
> Ruby-on-Rails fanboi Lol. The author is the creator of Rails
- embedding-shape 2mo ago
  Lol, he should try signing his post, literally had no idea! Thought it was weird to fanboi so much over someone else's framework, but now it totally makes sense, DHH has a tendency to toot his own horn a lot.
lightedman 2mo ago
"Huh, what Linux culture is this Ruby-on-Rails fanboi talking about?" Probably Gentoo, since that's where the truly competent Linux users that do understand their tools tend to migrate.

hombre_fatal 2mo ago

He's talking about Linux neckbeards and gatekeepers, not, say, cultural idiosyncrasies of any given distro.

embedding-shape 2mo ago
None of them, at least the one's I've encountered in my 20 something years, have had the idea of "everyone has to know everything about all tools", although they've certainly been annoying in other ways.
- hombre_fatal 2mo ago
  There's some hyperbole but his point is obvious to me from hanging out in forums and IRC channels over the years, or reading snarky "umm, I'm confused...?" quote-tweets for certain Omarchy posts about how Omarchy is just quickshell hyprland rice. I used to use an old omakase version of Debian called Crunchbang in uni (https://crunchbang.org/ https://crunchbang.org/) and there was always someone around to make the remark that you'd only use it if you couldn't read manpages. Or Dropbox seems pointless because you can build it trivially by mounting an ftp location with curlftpfs + svn.
  - mtrovo 2mo ago
    This is so true and one of the reasons why I think the "Linux Desktop" will always fail as long as it's marketed as "Linux Desktop". There's a clear market for "good enough" Linux boxes for coders and casual Chromebook-style usage (Steam Machine style) that's constantly bullied by the "you should read the manpage before posting" crowd.
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aquariusDue 2mo ago

Yeah... KDE, GNOME and soon COSMIC will be fine for most people. Ricing IS fun but this is more similar to taking a kitted out car that used to belong to your cousin to the car meet, part of the culture is stumbling around forums and asking around. There's been stuff in the past like Regolith that did similar things but now a semi-famous person is spearheading this so everybody wooos and ahhhs. Yes, I am salty.

skydhash 2mo ago

>> classic Linux culture. Where there's been a strong belief that everyone should know everything about all of their tools, That’s weird, imagine saying to mechanics, artists,… to not learn all about their tools.

Yiin 1mo ago
I guess that's why he's not saying that to mechanics and artists

kibibu 2mo ago

> Ruby-on-Rails fanboi Lol. The author is the creator of Rails

embedding-shape 2mo ago
Lol, he should try signing his post, literally had no idea! Thought it was weird to fanboi so much over someone else's framework, but now it totally makes sense, DHH has a tendency to toot his own horn a lot.

lightedman 2mo ago

"Huh, what Linux culture is this Ruby-on-Rails fanboi talking about?" Probably Gentoo, since that's where the truly competent Linux users that do understand their tools tend to migrate.