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Intentionally going after old people because they’re more susceptible to AI and declaring as much on record is fuckin wild. Does SV now optimize for evilness?

by Havoc 2mo ago

georgefrowny 2mo ago
They call it "goal orientation". I think there's a reason they fret so much about the paperclip optimisers, because they recognise them.
kotaKat 2mo ago
They’ve been grooming the elderly for years to fall for right wing propaganda to keep securing the ignorant elderly vote so this is just the natural progression to keep grooming them to fall for whatever narrative Horowitz wants to peddle for his GOP overlords to get one final dickover on the country as it keeps running into the ground.
LandR 2mo ago
> Does SV now optimize for evilness? Since when has it not ?
- walrus01 2mo ago
  I think the existence of the internet as a mass-market entertainment platform used by billions of non-tech users is part of it. SV from like the 1970s/1980s seemed a much more innocent place. The microcomputer/home computer boom (1978 to let's say 1998 or so) and growth of software companies selling packaged box software you could run on your PC was in many cases not run by people who I would categorize as fundamentally evil. Did a lot of weird cut-throat business stuff happen in the 1980s? Probably. But it all seems very cute and pales in comparison to today.
  - Schiendelman 2mo ago
    What makes you think they are less evil other than absence of high-quality information?
    - walrus01 2mo ago
      Well, for one they had less capability to execute evil plans on a worldwide Internet scale. Maybe some of the early 80s tech entrepreneurs very well could have become the same sort of founders that are in this list of horrid a16z things. But the reach and scale just wasn't possible. The whole paradigm of software development, and distributing that software product to end users was completely different than what we have today.
  - butlike 2mo ago
    > But it all seems very cute and pales in comparison to today. What if what happens today seems quaint in the future?
livinglist 2mo ago
Making world a better place by so lo mo
throwup238 2mo ago
Called it! [1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41056765 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41056765
sznio 2mo ago
SV is a paperclip optimizer, except instead of maximising paperclips, it maximises human misery. I won't be surprised when "The Com"[1] will be revealed to be a project of some rich SV accelerationist. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Com

Intentionally going after old people because they’re more susceptible to AI and declaring as much on record is fuckin wild. Does SV now optimize for evilness?

by Havoc 2mo ago

Intentionally going after old people because they’re more susceptible to AI and declaring as much on record is fuckin wild. Does SV now optimize for evilness?

georgefrowny 2mo ago

They call it "goal orientation". I think there's a reason they fret so much about the paperclip optimisers, because they recognise them.

kotaKat 2mo ago

They’ve been grooming the elderly for years to fall for right wing propaganda to keep securing the ignorant elderly vote so this is just the natural progression to keep grooming them to fall for whatever narrative Horowitz wants to peddle for his GOP overlords to get one final dickover on the country as it keeps running into the ground.

LandR 2mo ago

> Does SV now optimize for evilness? Since when has it not ?

walrus01 2mo ago
I think the existence of the internet as a mass-market entertainment platform used by billions of non-tech users is part of it. SV from like the 1970s/1980s seemed a much more innocent place. The microcomputer/home computer boom (1978 to let's say 1998 or so) and growth of software companies selling packaged box software you could run on your PC was in many cases not run by people who I would categorize as fundamentally evil. Did a lot of weird cut-throat business stuff happen in the 1980s? Probably. But it all seems very cute and pales in comparison to today.
- Schiendelman 2mo ago
  What makes you think they are less evil other than absence of high-quality information?
  - walrus01 2mo ago
    Well, for one they had less capability to execute evil plans on a worldwide Internet scale. Maybe some of the early 80s tech entrepreneurs very well could have become the same sort of founders that are in this list of horrid a16z things. But the reach and scale just wasn't possible. The whole paradigm of software development, and distributing that software product to end users was completely different than what we have today.
- butlike 2mo ago
  > But it all seems very cute and pales in comparison to today. What if what happens today seems quaint in the future?

livinglist 2mo ago

Making world a better place by so lo mo

throwup238 2mo ago

Called it! [1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41056765 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41056765

sznio 2mo ago

SV is a paperclip optimizer, except instead of maximising paperclips, it maximises human misery. I won't be surprised when "The Com"[1] will be revealed to be a project of some rich SV accelerationist. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Com