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The old joke is that because of the downturn in the airline industry, the largest employer of aeronautical engineers is McDonalds. These are 4 year college degr

The old joke is that because of the downturn in the airline industry, the largest employer of aeronautical engineers is McDonalds. These are 4 year college degree graduates, not aviation mechanics, which go to trade school.

jlgreco 14y ago
Just like being in the group "college educated" is not a free ticket to a successful career, being in the group "engineer" is not a free ticket to a successful career. Is a college educated person in a better position to have a successful career? Of course. Is an engineer in a better position to have a successful career? Of course. The only difference between an engineer in the wrong discipline and a college graduate with the wrong degree is magnitude.
- lbrent 14y ago
  If only those disciplines would not be shifting. Being in my mid 40s now I have seen shifts to and from mechanical/electrical engineering, physics, biology, chemistry, computer science, business or law degrees and many more. Actually when I graduated from high school the safest and easiest path to employment that was recommended to us was to study a humanity and become a teacher (teachers here - Central Europe - are much better paid than in the US) or get a business degree and work for a bank or insurance company. Both of these paths seem ridiculously risky now (or at least last time I checked). As a conclusion I would argue that there is no such thing as a "free ticket to a successful career". Chances are high that at one point or another there will be a surplus of people in everyones profession and almost everyone will experience unemployment or need to shift careers.
SilasX 14y ago
That would be a rather poor joke, though, since it's probably not true, and the demand for them (as engineers) was still strong when I left the field. (I left because I like programming more, not because I was worried about my job.)

jlgreco 14y ago

Just like being in the group "college educated" is not a free ticket to a successful career, being in the group "engineer" is not a free ticket to a successful career. Is a college educated person in a better position to have a successful career? Of course. Is an engineer in a better position to have a successful career? Of course. The only difference between an engineer in the wrong discipline and a college graduate with the wrong degree is magnitude.

lbrent 14y ago
If only those disciplines would not be shifting. Being in my mid 40s now I have seen shifts to and from mechanical/electrical engineering, physics, biology, chemistry, computer science, business or law degrees and many more. Actually when I graduated from high school the safest and easiest path to employment that was recommended to us was to study a humanity and become a teacher (teachers here - Central Europe - are much better paid than in the US) or get a business degree and work for a bank or insurance company. Both of these paths seem ridiculously risky now (or at least last time I checked). As a conclusion I would argue that there is no such thing as a "free ticket to a successful career". Chances are high that at one point or another there will be a surplus of people in everyones profession and almost everyone will experience unemployment or need to shift careers.

SilasX 14y ago

That would be a rather poor joke, though, since it's probably not true, and the demand for them (as engineers) was still strong when I left the field. (I left because I like programming more, not because I was worried about my job.)