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it may be advantageous for Russia. thats true. but it still doesnt imply that slovakia is therefore politically pro-russian. they might care about pro-slovak

it may be advantageous for Russia. thats true. but it still doesnt imply that slovakia is therefore politically pro-russian. they might care about pro-slovak advantages it brings. or they might think that sanction dont work as intendet. or they might think that sanction paradoxically cause too many problems in EU. or that it is not the right approach to resolve the conflict.

ifwinterco 1mo ago
Or not be as willing (as the British state is for example) to sacrifice the entire male population of Ukraine to fight a war for them. That makes you "pro Russian" apparently
- Sabinus 1mo ago
  When populations resist wars of conquest from imperial powers, and request aid, it's not "sacrificing" them to send them aid as they requested. That is a pro Russian narrative you have just deployed though.
  - ifwinterco 1mo ago
    It’s genuinely a lot more complicated than that. Just look at how officials in positions of power in the the British state reacted, especially people like Ben Wallace. They’re clearly, shamelessly happy that this war is going on. They love it! The fact Ukraine is getting destroyed as a viable nation is neither here nor there, they don’t care at all. To them it’s still 1880 and they’re playing the Great Game again, never mind the fact Britain would struggle to fight its way out of a wet paper bag in 2026
    - Sabinus 1mo ago
      If Putin is going continue Russia's imperial politics then I think that the British engaging in their very long habit of opposing conquerers on the Continent should be appreciated by everyone. The complicated start of the war is that the circumstances of the Soviet breakup created a Ukraine entangled with Russia, and when the Ukrainians wanted to join the EU and attain the associated prosperity and reforms, Russia responded in the ways familiar to it, and to Putin.
Gud 1mo ago
There is no “pro Slovak” removing the sanctions against Russia. Short term, they may benefit by getting access to cheaper resources. Long term, there will be Russian tanks in Bratislava.

ifwinterco 1mo ago

Or not be as willing (as the British state is for example) to sacrifice the entire male population of Ukraine to fight a war for them. That makes you "pro Russian" apparently

Sabinus 1mo ago
When populations resist wars of conquest from imperial powers, and request aid, it's not "sacrificing" them to send them aid as they requested. That is a pro Russian narrative you have just deployed though.
- ifwinterco 1mo ago
  It’s genuinely a lot more complicated than that. Just look at how officials in positions of power in the the British state reacted, especially people like Ben Wallace. They’re clearly, shamelessly happy that this war is going on. They love it! The fact Ukraine is getting destroyed as a viable nation is neither here nor there, they don’t care at all. To them it’s still 1880 and they’re playing the Great Game again, never mind the fact Britain would struggle to fight its way out of a wet paper bag in 2026
  - Sabinus 1mo ago
    If Putin is going continue Russia's imperial politics then I think that the British engaging in their very long habit of opposing conquerers on the Continent should be appreciated by everyone. The complicated start of the war is that the circumstances of the Soviet breakup created a Ukraine entangled with Russia, and when the Ukrainians wanted to join the EU and attain the associated prosperity and reforms, Russia responded in the ways familiar to it, and to Putin.

Gud 1mo ago

There is no “pro Slovak” removing the sanctions against Russia. Short term, they may benefit by getting access to cheaper resources. Long term, there will be Russian tanks in Bratislava.