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I disagree. There’s absolutely diminishing returns above 120 or so, and at 120hz you’d do as well to remove input latency rather than output latency. On a non f
by maccard 2mo ago
I disagree. There’s absolutely diminishing returns above 120 or so, and at 120hz you’d do as well to remove input latency rather than output latency. On a non full screen app you’re pretty much guaranteed to have a full frame from the OS/compositor, and more if your application has an event loop that is in any way abstracted from the OS.
Any meaningful amount of work is either going to be done “immediately” (see pretty much every spreadsheet in existence except for that one on the network drive) or it will take a perceptible amount of time. Giving progress in 4ms increments instead of 8ms isn’t really going to affect the perception of the task.
There are definitely real world tools that take time - pumping petrol/gas isn’t an instant action, neither is cooking.
Also - the device that I would consider quietist in my life has a sub 1hz refresh rate, and an 800MHz cpu with a 3 week battery life.
- californical 2mo agoI agree that input latency matters a LOT but disagree about 120hz being some sort of sweet spot. On the input side, yeah even a few 10’s of ms is very noticeable when typing or doing something quick. But also I use 240hz monitors for everything, and when I had a config bug on my Mac that degraded my connection to 180hz, my computer felt slow and laggy, and I only realized when it drove me crazy enough to check the settings again. I’m sure the same would happen if I was on a 480hz monitor and it got degraded to the 240hz that I’m used to now. And I agree there are diminishing returns, but there are still very perceptible returns.
- firen777 2mo ago> But also I use 240hz monitors for everything, and when I had a config bug on my Mac that degraded my connection to 180hz, my computer felt slow and laggy, and I only realized when it drove me crazy enough to check the settings again. Not trying to dismiss your perception, but are you sure the feeling of lag wasn't caused by some other bugs related to the bad config, say, some kind of interval mismatch? The difference between 240hz and 180hz is less than 1.5ms (if my calculation is correct) and I've seen OSU! player demand less precision than this.
- mrob 2mo agoYou don't need to feel the latency difference. You can tell the difference between high refresh rates by keeping your eyes still and moving your mouse cursor. The higher the display refresh rate (assuming the mouse sampling rate is high enough), the tighter the spacing between the phantom array effect images.