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> Claude Max plan I already pay for, until its safeguards cut me off I hate to say it but this is why security researchers are moving to Chinese models with no

> Claude Max plan I already pay for, until its safeguards cut me off I hate to say it but this is why security researchers are moving to Chinese models with no safeguards. I literally hit cyber safeguards in codex 5 minutes ago.

zb3 1mo ago
Not just security researchers, these safeguards can flag ordinary reverse engineering or even debugging tasks, this is pure comedy..
- mbreese 1mo ago
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qarl2 1mo ago
I'm hitting safeguards trying to discuss ways to sieve sand. Seriously. I mean, I understand. They don't want to be responsible when some high school student unleashes the next plague. But it just means we're all going to the Chinese. ... and some high school student is still going to unleash the next plague.
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josteink 1mo ago
I recently attended a conference/workshop about AI security. One of the topics was the importance of limiting the models and adding safeguards. I was the only one in class to argue that if we limit our models, somebody else is going to make models which are not limited and we will lose to them in the long run on all fronts (innovation, economy, militarily). Seemingly this is not obvious, even to people who have grown up in a free market economy and should be fully aware about how such markets operate. The answer was seemingly “more regulation” without a hint of irony or sarcasm.
rescbr 1mo ago
I got hit with cyber safeguards by asking Opus 5 to interact with my company's product development server using python/curl. I'd love to use the Chinese models in my day job!
glub 1mo ago
Despite having extensive security credentials, OpenAI revoked my cyber verification due to "technical reasons", with no ability to reinstate it, and without clear reasoning (it's just a generic error). But if I were to judge by people on X and their discussion forums, it's essentially a non-US/EU passport ban. Anthropic verified me with their CVP, but Opus is horrible at this, and CVP doesn't apply to Fable. Getting GLM 5.3 subscription was the first thing I did.

zb3 1mo ago

Not just security researchers, these safeguards can flag ordinary reverse engineering or even debugging tasks, this is pure comedy..

mbreese 1mo ago
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qarl2 1mo ago

I'm hitting safeguards trying to discuss ways to sieve sand. Seriously. I mean, I understand. They don't want to be responsible when some high school student unleashes the next plague. But it just means we're all going to the Chinese. ... and some high school student is still going to unleash the next plague.

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josteink 1mo ago

I recently attended a conference/workshop about AI security. One of the topics was the importance of limiting the models and adding safeguards. I was the only one in class to argue that if we limit our models, somebody else is going to make models which are not limited and we will lose to them in the long run on all fronts (innovation, economy, militarily). Seemingly this is not obvious, even to people who have grown up in a free market economy and should be fully aware about how such markets operate. The answer was seemingly “more regulation” without a hint of irony or sarcasm.

rescbr 1mo ago

I got hit with cyber safeguards by asking Opus 5 to interact with my company's product development server using python/curl. I'd love to use the Chinese models in my day job!

glub 1mo ago

Despite having extensive security credentials, OpenAI revoked my cyber verification due to "technical reasons", with no ability to reinstate it, and without clear reasoning (it's just a generic error). But if I were to judge by people on X and their discussion forums, it's essentially a non-US/EU passport ban. Anthropic verified me with their CVP, but Opus is horrible at this, and CVP doesn't apply to Fable. Getting GLM 5.3 subscription was the first thing I did.