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> Hard disagree. Make more TUIs! My big beef is the dichotomy of today's GPU accelerated bit-mapped displays which are burdened with this silly task of running

> Hard disagree. Make more TUIs! My big beef is the dichotomy of today's GPU accelerated bit-mapped displays which are burdened with this silly task of running a program that emulates a typewriter. Why TF do we not have a display protocol that can do graphics natively over SSH in 2026? > TUIs have downsides like accessibility, poor mouse support, but work really well if you focus on keyboard input. This assumes a typewriter emulator. Why are we not working on graphical systems where text is a first class primitive allowing us to easily draw text in any color, font, size, formatting and orientation as we please, onto a GPU accelerated display? Keyboard can still reign supreme. No mouse needed but if it is - first class support unlike crappy typewriter emulators.

utilize1808 2mo ago
> Why TF do we not have a display protocol that can do graphics natively over SSH in 2026? Did you mean X server?
- MisterTea 2mo ago
  Plan 9 devdraw which is really nice: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49384210#49404622 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49384210#49404622. X is well past its sell-by date. Plan 9 is text first as it was written by Unix programmers who wanted to build an OS and write programs (Rob wanted a better text editor.) It's the OG TUI. Window managers like Rio can run in Rio. You control things by writing textual messages from the command line, scripts, or code, e.g 'echo 100 >/dev/volume' to set audio volume to 100%. Someone wrote a new WM called Lola so I ran Lola in Rio in Lola in Rio because I can. Sam is very much a keyboard driven modern TUI ed (the standard editor). Acme is a mouse driven TUI editor. Both can be automated by programs and scripts. You can edit text while reading your email and chatting on irc from within Acme. BUT Lots of stuff missing. We don't yet have GPU accel. It's a MSSIVE undertaking. And it has to be carefully designed and would likely be a built around a generalized devcompute kernel device.
inigyou 1mo ago
We do it's X11

utilize1808 2mo ago

> Why TF do we not have a display protocol that can do graphics natively over SSH in 2026? Did you mean X server?

MisterTea 2mo ago
Plan 9 devdraw which is really nice: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49384210#49404622 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49384210#49404622. X is well past its sell-by date. Plan 9 is text first as it was written by Unix programmers who wanted to build an OS and write programs (Rob wanted a better text editor.) It's the OG TUI. Window managers like Rio can run in Rio. You control things by writing textual messages from the command line, scripts, or code, e.g 'echo 100 >/dev/volume' to set audio volume to 100%. Someone wrote a new WM called Lola so I ran Lola in Rio in Lola in Rio because I can. Sam is very much a keyboard driven modern TUI ed (the standard editor). Acme is a mouse driven TUI editor. Both can be automated by programs and scripts. You can edit text while reading your email and chatting on irc from within Acme. BUT Lots of stuff missing. We don't yet have GPU accel. It's a MSSIVE undertaking. And it has to be carefully designed and would likely be a built around a generalized devcompute kernel device.

inigyou 1mo ago

We do it's X11