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You have a point above in which I acknowledge that some people might be in dire eed of therapy but don't think so, so will never seek it. Though you won't reac
by teiferer 2mo ago
You have a point above in which I acknowledge that some people might be in dire eed of therapy but don't think so, so will never seek it. Though you won't reach those by recommending it to everybody. In contrast, I consider it problematic that the self-improvement movement instills feelings of being insufficient unless everything is tried to improve (like therapy). I would claim that there are enough people perfectly happy and introspective, all without therapy, and creating a culture where it's seen as a flaw to not have regular therapy is hurtful.
> People who are self-aware and introspective are already in therapy, or at least recognize it can benefit them.
I don't agree. I know tons of folks who are introspective and very balanced and ever have been to therapy nor do they have the need.
> just like everyone can benefit from physical therapy.
I wouldn't agree here either. Everybody arguably benefits from physical exercise. That's different from physical therapy. The former is sth preventative, you can do yourself, no personal trainer needed, just go for a run or play some squash or push some weights. Physical therapy you need when you had an injury or need to correct an issue limiting your health. That's corrective, not preventative.
Similar with mental exercise (some introspection or meditation or philosophising you can do alone or with friends or strangers on the internet, or with a therapist/professional, why not) versus mental therapy (an issue needs to be addressed and that should be done with a professional).
A key question is maybe whether the risk of an undiagnosed issue left untreated is too high to take. That's where the self-improvement movement is going to far, I think. We all have our wrinkles, and that's ok. Not every personality quirk needs correction, just like not all odd movement pattern needs a fix nor ever wrinkle in the face needs plastic surgery. The latter has been driven much too far in western culture (particularly american), and I'm basically arguing that the same seems to be happening with mental therapy too.
- cindyllm 2mo ago[dead]
- preg_match 2mo agoI believe therapy is not just for mental health issues, just like physical therapy is not just for post-surgery or what have you. Even if you have zero mental health issues, it can help cope with grief, stress, self-destructive behaviors, executive function, and more. I feel similarly to physical therapy. Even if you work out, physical therapy can introduce you to new ways to optimize your body that you would never know about. And it's specific to you and your body. I also agree not every personality quirk needs correction, nor is the goal of therapy correction. It's management. We all have things in our head that we are constantly managing, and we have to manage it if we want to be successful and maintain our relationships. Therapy helps finding out new management strategies, specific to you and how your mind tends to work.
- teiferer 2mo ago> new ways to optimize your body That's the key point here: Why does everything about the body (physical or mental) need to be optimized? If that's your kink, go for it. But acknowledge that not having that kink is fine too.
- preg_match 2mo agoWell it’s not a kink, I don’t have a 4AM morning routine or anything like that. I just think it could be helpful. I think toughing it out on your own is something society really praises, but it’s generally not a good idea. I think people view help as a sign of weakness, but it’s not. I also think that perspective alone is enough to go to therapy, as it is self-destructive.
- teiferer 2mo agoI do agree that avoiding therapy at all cost (cause going would be considered weak) is wrong. I also hold that going to therapy no matter what (cause not going would be considered weak) even though there is no problem to be solved is wrong as well.