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Sort of a thing on linux (and bsd) but not as often. An example is the mostly end of 32-bit computing, since 64-bit computing requires far more resources/RAM (a

Sort of a thing on linux (and bsd) but not as often. An example is the mostly end of 32-bit computing, since 64-bit computing requires far more resources/RAM (arguably, some of that can be ameliorated with swapping, but it is wayyy less good). Or the way so many people were on netbooks and the growing monolithic kernel kind of made the default gig or two of RAM less and less doable (I guess non-consumer-modifiable tablets and mostly soldered and increasingly locked down chromebooks took over most of that market, but it feels like people just take storage space, memory management, and hardware for granted, now).

zahlman 1mo ago
I mean, 64-bit computing at most doubles memory requirements, and there have been many other things motivating a doubling since the days of 32-bit computing. (And even more so since the days of 16-bit computing. For example: high-resolution, full colour monitors.)
- jambalaya8 1mo ago
  yes, but x64 requirement made the sorta standard low-end laptop ram amount of 2-4 gigabytes of sdram suddenly a "new minimum" of 4-8 gigabytes of sdram, even for linux, unless you optimize, and even then you kind of need 4gb.
  - LargoLasskhyfv 1mo ago
    There is the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X32_ABI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X32_ABI for AMD64 at least. But it's looking rather bitrotten and is frowned upon by the snobs. Nobody is using it. Justine Tunney's https://www.justinetunney.com/ https://www.justinetunney.com/ APE and Cosmopolitan libc shows what's possible, though. https://www.justinetunney.com/cosmo3/ https://www.justinetunney.com/cosmo3/ https://www.justinetunney.com/ape.html https://www.justinetunney.com/ape.html https://www.justinetunney.com/matmul/ https://www.justinetunney.com/matmul/ And then there is vibecoded stuff like https://isene.org/chasm/ https://isene.org/chasm/ I think there is much more to be expected coming from that direction, overthrowing decades old cargo-cults :-)

zahlman 1mo ago

I mean, 64-bit computing at most doubles memory requirements, and there have been many other things motivating a doubling since the days of 32-bit computing. (And even more so since the days of 16-bit computing. For example: high-resolution, full colour monitors.)

jambalaya8 1mo ago
yes, but x64 requirement made the sorta standard low-end laptop ram amount of 2-4 gigabytes of sdram suddenly a "new minimum" of 4-8 gigabytes of sdram, even for linux, unless you optimize, and even then you kind of need 4gb.
- LargoLasskhyfv 1mo ago
  There is the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X32_ABI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X32_ABI for AMD64 at least. But it's looking rather bitrotten and is frowned upon by the snobs. Nobody is using it. Justine Tunney's https://www.justinetunney.com/ https://www.justinetunney.com/ APE and Cosmopolitan libc shows what's possible, though. https://www.justinetunney.com/cosmo3/ https://www.justinetunney.com/cosmo3/ https://www.justinetunney.com/ape.html https://www.justinetunney.com/ape.html https://www.justinetunney.com/matmul/ https://www.justinetunney.com/matmul/ And then there is vibecoded stuff like https://isene.org/chasm/ https://isene.org/chasm/ I think there is much more to be expected coming from that direction, overthrowing decades old cargo-cults :-)