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They are part of the democratic party so they are democrats. As for their agenda, you are wrong.

db48x 1mo ago
They themselves literally say out loud that they want to abolish our existing institutions. If you want to debate that point, go debate the DSA candidates themselves.
- mittensc 1mo ago
  You're wrong again.
  - db48x 1mo ago
    You must live under a rock. A quick search will find you plenty of video of politicians talking about defunding things, cancelling Thanksgiving, abolishing ICE or the FDA or the Senate, undercutting small businesses, introducing rationing, etc, etc.
YZF 1mo ago
I'm going to believe what they say: https://www.dsausa.org/ https://www.dsausa.org/ "The Democratic Socialists of America is the largest socialist organization in the United States, with over 100,000 members and chapters in all 50 states. We believe that working people should run both the economy and society democratically to meet human needs, not to make profits for a few." "Capitalism is a system designed by the owning class to exploit the rest of us for their own profit. We must replace it with democratic socialism, a system where ordinary people have a real voice in our workplaces, neighborhoods, and society." "democratic socialism" is an oxymoron. socialism conflicts directly with democratic values. At the very least there is no pre-existing example of democracy and socialism working side by side. All previous socialist "experiments" were not democracies.
- mittensc 1mo ago
  > "democratic socialism" is an oxymoron No it's not, check out Europe, mostly northern countries, it's working just fine. > At the very least there is no pre-existing example of democracy and socialism working side by side. Again, northern europe screaming at you. So you're wrong... Also, you're Canadian, maybe it's not your business
  - realo 1mo ago
    I am also a Canadian, and since midnight we are in a big economic war with the USA. I feeel those topics are a bit of my business.
    - mittensc 1mo ago
      Who exactly imposed those tarriffs?
  - toss1 1mo ago
    "Democratic Socialism" is VERY different from "Social Democracy" In socialism with supposed democracy, where the state owns the means of production and supposedly the workers supposedly have a say about everything, they actually end up with a say about nothing (at least not without greasing the right palms in the inevitably corrupt system that arises). In Social Democracy, capitalism is the underlying system, where corporations and workers can own means of production, but it operates under sufficient regulation that the excesses and systemic failures of captialism (e.g., failure to prevent Tragedies Of The Commons, tendency towards monopoly and excess concentration of power, consistent tendency to abuse and impoverish workers, etc.), you end up with successful systems like Northern Europe. The two are very different, and we need to hold the DSA people to the latter and not let them sneak in the former.
    - mittensc 1mo ago
      You are wrong. The term you are looking for is communism, not socialism. Nordic countries are practicing Democratic Socialism. DSA is not communist. Why are you spreading this crap when it takes 2 neurons and a few searches to find out you are wrong?

db48x 1mo ago

They themselves literally say out loud that they want to abolish our existing institutions. If you want to debate that point, go debate the DSA candidates themselves.

mittensc 1mo ago
You're wrong again.
- db48x 1mo ago
  You must live under a rock. A quick search will find you plenty of video of politicians talking about defunding things, cancelling Thanksgiving, abolishing ICE or the FDA or the Senate, undercutting small businesses, introducing rationing, etc, etc.

YZF 1mo ago

I'm going to believe what they say: https://www.dsausa.org/ https://www.dsausa.org/ "The Democratic Socialists of America is the largest socialist organization in the United States, with over 100,000 members and chapters in all 50 states. We believe that working people should run both the economy and society democratically to meet human needs, not to make profits for a few." "Capitalism is a system designed by the owning class to exploit the rest of us for their own profit. We must replace it with democratic socialism, a system where ordinary people have a real voice in our workplaces, neighborhoods, and society." "democratic socialism" is an oxymoron. socialism conflicts directly with democratic values. At the very least there is no pre-existing example of democracy and socialism working side by side. All previous socialist "experiments" were not democracies.

mittensc 1mo ago
> "democratic socialism" is an oxymoron No it's not, check out Europe, mostly northern countries, it's working just fine. > At the very least there is no pre-existing example of democracy and socialism working side by side. Again, northern europe screaming at you. So you're wrong... Also, you're Canadian, maybe it's not your business
- realo 1mo ago
  I am also a Canadian, and since midnight we are in a big economic war with the USA. I feeel those topics are a bit of my business.
  - mittensc 1mo ago
    Who exactly imposed those tarriffs?
- toss1 1mo ago
  "Democratic Socialism" is VERY different from "Social Democracy" In socialism with supposed democracy, where the state owns the means of production and supposedly the workers supposedly have a say about everything, they actually end up with a say about nothing (at least not without greasing the right palms in the inevitably corrupt system that arises). In Social Democracy, capitalism is the underlying system, where corporations and workers can own means of production, but it operates under sufficient regulation that the excesses and systemic failures of captialism (e.g., failure to prevent Tragedies Of The Commons, tendency towards monopoly and excess concentration of power, consistent tendency to abuse and impoverish workers, etc.), you end up with successful systems like Northern Europe. The two are very different, and we need to hold the DSA people to the latter and not let them sneak in the former.
  - mittensc 1mo ago
    You are wrong. The term you are looking for is communism, not socialism. Nordic countries are practicing Democratic Socialism. DSA is not communist. Why are you spreading this crap when it takes 2 neurons and a few searches to find out you are wrong?