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> Three, their outputs don't show up in court cases as evidence That's not true - I was recently a juror on a UK trial where we were shown ANPR photography of
by pipmac 1mo ago
> Three, their outputs don't show up in court cases as evidence
That's not true - I was recently a juror on a UK trial where we were shown ANPR photography of the defendants' vehicles. Here's some other examples of cases in the UK where the prosecution presented the jury with ANPR evidence:
https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/693b0db6b21a3a02e931ced1 https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/693b0db6b21a3a02e931ce...
https://www.2hb.co.uk/news/class-a-drug-importation-trial-convictions https://www.2hb.co.uk/news/class-a-drug-importation-trial-co...
https://www.2br.co.uk/sam-magee-kc-successfully-prosecutes-man-charged-with-the-murder-and-dismemberment-of-his-friend/ https://www.2br.co.uk/sam-magee-kc-successfully-prosecutes-m...
https://www.svs-solicitors.co.uk/additional-notable-cases-2023/ https://www.svs-solicitors.co.uk/additional-notable-cases-20...
https://www.judiciaryni.uk/files/judiciaryni/decisions/The%20King%20v%20James%20Alexander%20Smith.pdf https://www.judiciaryni.uk/files/judiciaryni/decisions/The%2...
- estearum 1mo agoYou misunderstood the thread. Automated speed cameras are not part of a surveillance network. ANPR networks are obviously created specifically for surveillance. GP said "I remember pushback to automated speed cameras" and I said sure, but that was still very different because they weren't part of a surveillance network. Your proof that ANPRs are used for surveillance illustrates the same difference I am pointing out. Then the gap between UK's government-owned ANPRs and the privately owned Flock cameras is still probably quite large. I don't know the UK's privacy laws, but they probably exist. Flock, as a private party in the US, essentially has zero controls whatsoever on how the data is used. Including – most critically – that the government can simply buy the data from Flock (sans warrant) that would be illegal for the government to produce itself.