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Sounds like the lawyer's spinning what any successful business does with trying to acquire customers and serve their needs as though they were dealing drugs (gr

by erelong 1mo ago

Sounds like the lawyer's spinning what any successful business does with trying to acquire customers and serve their needs as though they were dealing drugs (granted, the line can be blurry between things that are simply enjoyable versus that which is more strongly addictive - some people get "addicted" to eating, but we can't really ban food, for example)

tikimcfee 1mo ago
Perhaps, then, it's a matter of degree like most things. And perhaps, again, "what most businesses do" is not really a good defense to hide behind? I'm so tired of the whatabouts and the normalization and the pretending like this billion trillion whatever company has does anything but take advantage of its power to defend itself with slants and lies that any normal person or small group could never get away with. You can be a big company and not be pointedly or maliciously harmful to society. Facebook is not that. And no, I will never refer to it as "meta" to allow yet another opportunity for these people to sane wash their behavior. We know who they are. We know what they choose and chose to do. Let the tattered and broken laws of the world actually do something. "What normal businesses do"... sheesh.
- gruez 1mo ago
  >And perhaps, again, "what most businesses do" is not really a good defense to hide behind? If you're doing what every one else is doing, but only you are being prosecuted, that's reeks of political motivated prosecution.
  - Avicebron 1mo ago
    Or industry-wide cancerous practices only now being addressed in some way.
  - georgemcbay 1mo ago
    > If you're doing what every one else is doing, but only you are being prosecuted, that's reeks of political motivated prosecution. Not necessarily. Even government resources are finite. If you are doing what everyone else is doing, but only you are being prosecuted (currently), it could be (and often is) because the people doing the prosecuting have limited resources, and the best practical course of action for them is to go after one highly visible target and get a ruling that will spook everyone else into self-correcting (or be the next largest target).
afpx 1mo ago
Yeah, that doesn't fly with most Americans. Sounds a lot like the Sacklers - welp, can't ban pain meds, so might as well just addict as many as we can to opiods and take as much money as we can before they die I wouldn't be surprised if Zuckerburg and Sackler were 4th or 5th cousins, they act so similar
miltonlost 1mo ago
Sounds like a lot of successful businesses should be shut down then if Meta is the result of what "any" business does.
digitaltrees 1mo ago
It’s easy to have a successful business by breaking the law. It’s easy to with races when you take performance enhancing drugs. And ask yourself, would facebook be significantly less successful if they didn’t intentionally market to teen girls based on their emotional state and had the decency to ignore signs of depression and anxiety instead of monetizing them? They might be more successful over time.

by erelong 1mo ago

tikimcfee 1mo ago

Perhaps, then, it's a matter of degree like most things. And perhaps, again, "what most businesses do" is not really a good defense to hide behind? I'm so tired of the whatabouts and the normalization and the pretending like this billion trillion whatever company has does anything but take advantage of its power to defend itself with slants and lies that any normal person or small group could never get away with. You can be a big company and not be pointedly or maliciously harmful to society. Facebook is not that. And no, I will never refer to it as "meta" to allow yet another opportunity for these people to sane wash their behavior. We know who they are. We know what they choose and chose to do. Let the tattered and broken laws of the world actually do something. "What normal businesses do"... sheesh.

gruez 1mo ago
>And perhaps, again, "what most businesses do" is not really a good defense to hide behind? If you're doing what every one else is doing, but only you are being prosecuted, that's reeks of political motivated prosecution.
- Avicebron 1mo ago
  Or industry-wide cancerous practices only now being addressed in some way.
- georgemcbay 1mo ago
  > If you're doing what every one else is doing, but only you are being prosecuted, that's reeks of political motivated prosecution. Not necessarily. Even government resources are finite. If you are doing what everyone else is doing, but only you are being prosecuted (currently), it could be (and often is) because the people doing the prosecuting have limited resources, and the best practical course of action for them is to go after one highly visible target and get a ruling that will spook everyone else into self-correcting (or be the next largest target).

afpx 1mo ago

Yeah, that doesn't fly with most Americans. Sounds a lot like the Sacklers - welp, can't ban pain meds, so might as well just addict as many as we can to opiods and take as much money as we can before they die I wouldn't be surprised if Zuckerburg and Sackler were 4th or 5th cousins, they act so similar

miltonlost 1mo ago

Sounds like a lot of successful businesses should be shut down then if Meta is the result of what "any" business does.

digitaltrees 1mo ago

It’s easy to have a successful business by breaking the law. It’s easy to with races when you take performance enhancing drugs. And ask yourself, would facebook be significantly less successful if they didn’t intentionally market to teen girls based on their emotional state and had the decency to ignore signs of depression and anxiety instead of monetizing them? They might be more successful over time.