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Rule of law is when the state's power is effectively limited by law. Rule of law is not about order nor safety
by beremaki 1mo ago
Rule of law is when the state's power is effectively limited by law.
Rule of law is not about order nor safety
- gottorf 1mo agoRule of law is when laws as written by legislators are executed by the government as written and, when appropriate, judged by the judiciary as written, and at each step the words as written supersede the whims and feelings of the people involved. It doesn't imply that the state can't do anything meaningful because it's so hamstrung. Statements like "the US does not have the rule of law" are laughable Reddit-tier comments that just make me sad for the current state of HN.
- inigyou 1mo agoYeah and the US doesn't currently have that.
- alasdair_ 1mo agoWhen the president can just pick the judges he wants and then have them change laws that have existed for decades on a whim, any kind of meaningful rule of law is absent.
- itsanaccount 1mo agoReddit-tier comment, says the guy whos never had his face smashed into the hood of a car by a sheriff deputy. We got something in the US and it often wears robes and badges, but it's not law written by legislatures.
- cryoshon 1mo agoThe president and his cronies are openly immune to any recourse from the law at the moment. They are doing widespread and overt corruption and insider trading on a daily basis on scales that have never been seen in human history before. There is not any attempt at stopping that by any organ of government. Separately, internal security forces have been killing citizens without any cause nor investigation after the fact, in contravention to all of the supposed "rights" those citizens were once said to have. These are the things the rule of law is about. It is meant to be a higher power than any individual, no matter their position. The U.S. does not have the rule of law any longer. It's best to look the truth in the face rather than hide from it.
- xyzzy123 1mo agoMostly you should assess rule of law by threat to you and people you know and not by what it seems like other people are able to get away with. Yes, a big part of the idea is that laws are meant to also apply to the powerful, but it's difficult to accurately assess situations that are far away from you.
- abduhl 1mo agoFirst they came for those that were far away from me and I did not speak out because… I didn’t know them?
- xyzzy123 1mo agoThe specific complaint of the poster seems to be that certain people are NOT being "come for".
- spiderfarmer 1mo agoWhat a nonsensical statement. From a distance it’s pretty clear that there is no rule of law anymore in the USA. Yes, it’s partially functioning, but that’s not the rule.
- HeyLaughingBoy 1mo agoSo I can go out and kill my neighbor without having to worry about consequences, then? I mean, just say the word: he's been pissing me off recently.
- spacedcowboy 1mo agoI dunno. How rich are you ? And do you happen to play college football ? That would help.
- dpkirchner 1mo ago
- bellowsgulch 1mo agoDoes anyone remember when you posted on a place like Something Awful or Facepunch getting banned for a day for saying something so fucking stupid you needed to learn a lesson? No? Anyone?
- salawat 1mo agoThe almighty 10bux. I do indeed.
- pipes 1mo agoThe quality of the posts in Reddit grew worse and worse. To the point that I stopped visiting it frequently and my use of hacker news grew and grew. Exactly the same thing is happening to hacker news. I guess as it's reverting to the mean. There's still reasonable civil debate here. But recently I was surprised to be called a fascist for pointing out the Nazis were national socialists. The poster included comments like "don't engage with this person he's obviously x y and z." I'm starting to see this kind of nonsense more and more on hacker news.
- usern20260720 1mo agohave you ever heard about "Epstein"?