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I find the entire observability space to quite a poor experience, at least in the self-hosted space. Tried both grafana route and signoz and neither seems parti
by Havoc 2mo ago
I find the entire observability space to quite a poor experience, at least in the self-hosted space. Tried both grafana route and signoz and neither seems particularly pleasant
- N_Lens 2mo agoTry datalust/seq
- nunez 2mo agoWhat about the experience did you find lacking?
- Havoc 2mo agoThat would be an essay, but in short: Grafana is fine to get to a selfhosted basic install. But once you try to actually connect logs, metrics, traces in selfhosted context and perhaps sprinkle some otel in...that sht gets out of hand very fast. It's modular in a way that seems like a win but once you start connecting stuff it starts adding complexity not ease. Signoz...still pretty early in exploring this and so far it's acceptable, but it too relies on a mix of query languages incl the competitors promql so some panels support it other seem to not to? The entire thing just seems bewildering to me. Not gonna say "why is this so hard" because I genuinely thing smart people are genuinely trying here...but there result just isn't great.
- ruhani_grover 2mo ago[dead]
- dengolius 2mo ago> Grafana is fine to get to a selfhosted basic install. But once you try to actually connect logs, metrics, traces in selfhosted context and perhaps sprinkle some otel in...that sht gets out of hand very fast. It's modular in a way that seems like a win but once you start connecting stuff it starts adding complexity not easy. Maybe because some open-source software has limitations? That seems reasonable to me.
- csujoy 2mo agoIMO Grafana is definitely the best o11y tool when you are just starting out. But it isn't built for scale. When you have to analyze petabytes of logs, something custom built for this like CtrlB might be more helpful.