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"You don't understand the situation." I sure do. My point was-- the first time this happens, there will be an outcry that makes this one seem small. At that

"You don't understand the situation." I sure do. My point was-- the first time this happens, there will be an outcry that makes this one seem small. At that point, I can delete my account. Maybe the poor sucker who was the first victim can't, but I can. MAYBE Instagram at this point is so malevolent that they give me the finger and retain my photos, but that seems kinda unlikely. Edit: And I couldn't give a single damn about whether my friends see my visage next to a coke logo if I was willing to photograph myself enjoying a coke. It doesn't inconvenience me or my friends one single bit. Even if they throw my photo into a cigarette ad, I'd probably send them an annoyed note, nuke my account, shrug and move on with my life.

Tuna-Fish 14y ago
The contract explicitly specifies that they can, and will, retain all your photos if you don't delete your account by the deadline. After that, they have a permanent license to do whatever they want with your photos.
- webwright 14y ago
  Yep-- lawyers who write ToS' tend to make them as company-friendly as possible to give them the most wiggle room (and best defense in case they get sued). But it'd be silly/suicidal to use photos from deleted accounts when there are literally BILLIONS from non-deleted accounts.
eternalban 14y ago
You still don't understand the situation. By taking down Instagram now we'll send a clear message that taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity and likeness is /not acceptable/.
- pretoriusB 14y ago
  >By taking down Instagram now we'll send a clear message that taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity and likeness is /not acceptable/. I call BS. Having already accepted the Patriot Act, mass domestic surveillance, phone taps without a warrant, most of our data in Google/Facebook/MS/Apple/Dropbox/Amazon clouds, etc, we're now supposed "send a clear message that taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity and likeness is /not acceptable/."??? It's the opposite: few things have been MORE acceptable by american society than companies and governments taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity. Sending a message to Instagram? It's like being inside a burning house and we respond by stomping on our cigarette.
  - jnrjnn 14y ago
    pretoriusB: It sounds that you are a victim of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness
    - pretoriusB 14y ago
      No -- but you might be responding to something I have NOT said. I'm not against action. I'm for action where it _matters_. Abandoning all those really relevant privacy fronts and then "sending a message" to ...Instagram, is not it. That's what I tried to convey with my "stomping the cigarette" analogy. Better try to put down the house fire first...
  - eternalban 14y ago
    You make a seriously excellent point!

Tuna-Fish 14y ago

The contract explicitly specifies that they can, and will, retain all your photos if you don't delete your account by the deadline. After that, they have a permanent license to do whatever they want with your photos.

webwright 14y ago
Yep-- lawyers who write ToS' tend to make them as company-friendly as possible to give them the most wiggle room (and best defense in case they get sued). But it'd be silly/suicidal to use photos from deleted accounts when there are literally BILLIONS from non-deleted accounts.

eternalban 14y ago

You still don't understand the situation. By taking down Instagram now we'll send a clear message that taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity and likeness is /not acceptable/.

pretoriusB 14y ago
>By taking down Instagram now we'll send a clear message that taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity and likeness is /not acceptable/. I call BS. Having already accepted the Patriot Act, mass domestic surveillance, phone taps without a warrant, most of our data in Google/Facebook/MS/Apple/Dropbox/Amazon clouds, etc, we're now supposed "send a clear message that taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity and likeness is /not acceptable/."??? It's the opposite: few things have been MORE acceptable by american society than companies and governments taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity. Sending a message to Instagram? It's like being inside a burning house and we respond by stomping on our cigarette.
- jnrjnn 14y ago
  pretoriusB: It sounds that you are a victim of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness
  - pretoriusB 14y ago
    No -- but you might be responding to something I have NOT said. I'm not against action. I'm for action where it _matters_. Abandoning all those really relevant privacy fronts and then "sending a message" to ...Instagram, is not it. That's what I tried to convey with my "stomping the cigarette" analogy. Better try to put down the house fire first...
- eternalban 14y ago
  You make a seriously excellent point!