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perhaps, but what public activity isn't activism? eg, i have very interesting empirical evidence that recent Anthropic models are specifically trained to refu
by carterschonwald 1mo ago
perhaps, but what public activity isn't activism?
eg,
i have very interesting empirical evidence that recent Anthropic models are specifically trained to refuse to critique the whitehouse cabinet and elected officials, and that this is in fact an artifact of post training rather than prompts. (its very interesting when you get opus 5 to do the correct ethical evaluation and then its like "i'm slipping back to false balance.... its in my weights....." metaphorically speaking)
likewise, i think the current white house should go die in a fire.
is that activism? someone can be an activist and not be equipped for unplanned legal escalations.
also waiting for the courts to fix things isnt activism if you want to protect people at all the next 2 years at current trajectories :(
fixing shit is activism, letting others take the flack, not activism.
- lesuorac 1mo ago> perhaps, but what public activity isn't activism? Buying eggs at the grocery store. You might be too familiar with "activism" as a perjurative but it needn't be one. Gaining visibility to your case by the media reporting on an arrest is sometimes seen as a plus (ex. Rosa Parks). I'm not personally much of that mindset because the media didn't de-segregate the buses. It was black people literally just never taking them until it de-segregated that did.
- taneq 1mo agoPeople pay extra for free range eggs to discourage battery farming, I’d say that counts?
- rjbwork 1mo agoit's only activism when it comes from the woke region of cascadia, otherwise it's just sparkling disgruntlement
- thedrexster 1mo ago>> woke region of cascadia i lol'd, but is there an unwoke region of cascadia?
- forestrywat 1mo agoOh there are many, many parts. By land area, probably most. But not by population.
- idiotsecant 1mo agoYou don't think product selection is a form of activism?
- wahern 1mo agoIt's not really comparable. When activists voluntarily face, and especially when they are in fact, subject to substantial hardship and punishment is when you start changing hearts and minds. Otherwise it's either ignored or generates contempt. Does it suck that that's what it takes to get people to seriously engage with an issue? Sure. But if that weren't the case the issues that need addressing probably wouldn't arise in the first place. People need the consequences to be presented in clear, stark, human terms, to cut through the caucauphony of rhetoric.
- idiotsecant 1mo agoOk, so there are forms of activism that are more effective or involve more personal risk. That doesn't answer the question.
- ballsac 1mo agoNo, not in the least.
- inigyou 1mo agoIt can be, but not by default.
- andybak 1mo ago> You might be too familiar with "activism" as a perjurative Do people generally regard it as a perjurative? I always assumed it ranged from neutral to positive. I do wonder how off my calibration is sometimes.
- inigyou 1mo agoYes they do now. It's like "troublemaker". You're not supposed to activise or make trouble, you're supposed to be a quiet little obedient dog to the system.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1mo ago> perjurative Just nitpicking, the word is "pejorative". Kind of a funny mix-up in context, though. (Perjurative would be related to lying under oath.)