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I always enter US with all of my devices wiped and restore them from backup once I'm past immigration, simply because I don't trust government to maintain the s

by c2h5oh 1mo ago

I always enter US with all of my devices wiped and restore them from backup once I'm past immigration, simply because I don't trust government to maintain the security level my job requires. Now I'm worried that this will be held against me..

guax 1mo ago
This is absolutely a possibility and having a clean phone might be grounds for being denied entry. The border agent has a lot of control over your life at that point and virtually zero accountability.
- rovr138 1mo ago
  It's not the same issue. From the article, > After questioning, he eventually turned it over but gave officers a passcode that then erased the contents of his Google Pixel phone. I don't see the problem being a clean device, but destroying evidence in the moment.
  - guax 1mo ago
    I replied specifically to the comment mentioning that arriving with pre-wiped devices could be used against them.
rovr138 1mo ago
> I don't trust government to maintain the security level my job requires What does the security officer at your company say? Either you shouldn't be leaving with devices with the data from your job on them, or you don't trust them, but your job is fine with it. I keep work things separate. If it's a personal trip, I don't travel with work devices. If it's a work trip, and there's worry, I usually take a loaner device usually with ms office and a vpn. Usually the issue is not returning, but other governments.
- c2h5oh 1mo ago
  > What does the security officer at your company say? I'm the one making those decisions for the company and I don't believe us immigration officials to be competent and trustworthy enough to have access to what is on my work laptop, so I come through immigration with devices with data I have no problem granting access to - a fresh OS install. > Either you shouldn't be leaving with devices with the data from your job on them, or you don't trust them, but your job is fine with it. When visiting US (and I only visit US for work-related reasons) I leave personal devices home and only carry either wiped work-issued laptop (for on-sites) or an old Lenovo laptop with a fresh OS install (for conferences) + a wiped phone.

by c2h5oh 1mo ago

guax 1mo ago

This is absolutely a possibility and having a clean phone might be grounds for being denied entry. The border agent has a lot of control over your life at that point and virtually zero accountability.

rovr138 1mo ago
It's not the same issue. From the article, > After questioning, he eventually turned it over but gave officers a passcode that then erased the contents of his Google Pixel phone. I don't see the problem being a clean device, but destroying evidence in the moment.
- guax 1mo ago
  I replied specifically to the comment mentioning that arriving with pre-wiped devices could be used against them.

rovr138 1mo ago

> I don't trust government to maintain the security level my job requires What does the security officer at your company say? Either you shouldn't be leaving with devices with the data from your job on them, or you don't trust them, but your job is fine with it. I keep work things separate. If it's a personal trip, I don't travel with work devices. If it's a work trip, and there's worry, I usually take a loaner device usually with ms office and a vpn. Usually the issue is not returning, but other governments.

c2h5oh 1mo ago
> What does the security officer at your company say? I'm the one making those decisions for the company and I don't believe us immigration officials to be competent and trustworthy enough to have access to what is on my work laptop, so I come through immigration with devices with data I have no problem granting access to - a fresh OS install. > Either you shouldn't be leaving with devices with the data from your job on them, or you don't trust them, but your job is fine with it. When visiting US (and I only visit US for work-related reasons) I leave personal devices home and only carry either wiped work-issued laptop (for on-sites) or an old Lenovo laptop with a fresh OS install (for conferences) + a wiped phone.