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Moving on from being a unipolar power does not necessitate societal collapse. The UK is still around and their empire fell a long time ago. > If you want to Sp

by mcmcmc 2mo ago

Moving on from being a unipolar power does not necessitate societal collapse. The UK is still around and their empire fell a long time ago. > If you want to Speedrun the collapse, vote for trump. This nonsense needs to stop. You can’t vote for him again unless he deigns to run for a lower office (unlikely). Term limits are real. America needs to start planning for the post-Trump era and hopefully mitigate further damage with a blue wave in the midterms. Or with non-MAGA republicans who might even return to actual fiscal conservatism.

kshri24 2mo ago
> The UK is still around and their empire fell a long time ago. America is not an Empire. When America collapses it will definitely lead to societal collapse. The racial tensions are kept under control only because of the mirage of prosperity and equal opportunity. And when the mirage clears it will turn real ugly really fast. > hopefully mitigate further damage with a blue wave in the midterms. Or with non-MAGA republicans who might even return to actual fiscal conservatism. I don't think it is possible to fix this as it is a systemic issue. Irrespective of whether the next President is from D or R. All of the elite at the top know that it is a sinking ship, primarily due to the insane debt that has accumulated. There is absolutely no way to clear it the way it is going. Once AI bubble pops that is when downfall accelerates.
- mcmcmc 2mo ago
  American imperialism is well documented. We have military outposts all over the world. Puerto Rico is still in essence a colony. > When America collapses it will definitely lead to societal collapse. The racial tensions are kept under control only because of the mirage of prosperity and equal opportunity. And when the mirage clears it will turn real ugly really fast. You say that like you want it to happen. Continuing to harp on that future is a self fulfilling prophecy. If you want a better America first you have to envision it instead of tearing it down.
  - kshri24 2mo ago
    > You say that like you want it to happen. It has already started [1]. It has increased 100% since 2015. Just in the past decade alone. This is only reported hate crimes. > If you want a better America first you have to envision it instead of tearing it down. That ship has sailed long ago. > American imperialism is well documented. We have military outposts all over the world. Puerto Rico is still in essence a colony. Still not an Empire. You can call it an outward expansion or projection of power but not direct control. An Empire has direct control over colonies that send back tributes which run the Kingdom and give its residents prosperity, at the expense of residents of colonies who are taxed and deprived of their wealth. The tributes outweigh whatever growth is happening within the Kingdom itself. Puerto Rico or any of the military outposts are not equivalent. Puerto Rico does not run USA. USA losing Puerto Rico will not do anything to its economic or military power. [1]: https://usafacts.org/articles/which-groups-have-experienced-an-increase-in-hate-crimes/ https://usafacts.org/articles/which-groups-have-experienced-...
LastTrain 2mo ago
> This nonsense needs to stop. You can’t vote for him again unless he deigns to run for a lower office Oh he will run again, and people will vote for him. The theory underpinning this is the fact that he did not serve consecutive terms and if you think that won’t work; all it takes is one party going along with it. And fuck you for downplaying what he is capable of.
- mcmcmc 2mo ago
  You keep saying it and it’ll happen. Stop saying it. You give credence to the idea by speaking it into existence. Stop believing and repeating their bullshit and letting them win. If he tries, some states will keep him off the ballot and likely threaten secession if the feds attempt to force him through. That’s the point when doomers like you can decide to get your shit together and forge a compromise, or let the oligarchs have their way and light off a civil war.
  - LastTrain 2mo ago
    Yes and I caused Jan 6 by calling out my local Rep. in December 2025 for telling his constituents to storm the Capitol and steal back the election. What compromise on this issue are you looking for?
    - mcmcmc 2mo ago
      The problem is talking about it like a foregone conclusion. You have already accepted he is going to run and are ready to convince the rest of America that he will be on the ballot. You are doing their job for them. The compromise is that corrupt officials on both sides need punished. Both sides need reform. Neither party should have the kind of power Trump has seized. We don’t fix this by voting in a Dem who goes on a GOP witch hunt without also rooting out corruption in the DNC. There has to be enough consensus to pass constitutional reform, and you don’t get there with extremism or hate.
      - inigyou 2mo ago
        You use words like "should" while the other uses words like "is".

by mcmcmc 2mo ago

kshri24 2mo ago

> The UK is still around and their empire fell a long time ago. America is not an Empire. When America collapses it will definitely lead to societal collapse. The racial tensions are kept under control only because of the mirage of prosperity and equal opportunity. And when the mirage clears it will turn real ugly really fast. > hopefully mitigate further damage with a blue wave in the midterms. Or with non-MAGA republicans who might even return to actual fiscal conservatism. I don't think it is possible to fix this as it is a systemic issue. Irrespective of whether the next President is from D or R. All of the elite at the top know that it is a sinking ship, primarily due to the insane debt that has accumulated. There is absolutely no way to clear it the way it is going. Once AI bubble pops that is when downfall accelerates.

mcmcmc 2mo ago
American imperialism is well documented. We have military outposts all over the world. Puerto Rico is still in essence a colony. > When America collapses it will definitely lead to societal collapse. The racial tensions are kept under control only because of the mirage of prosperity and equal opportunity. And when the mirage clears it will turn real ugly really fast. You say that like you want it to happen. Continuing to harp on that future is a self fulfilling prophecy. If you want a better America first you have to envision it instead of tearing it down.
- kshri24 2mo ago
  > You say that like you want it to happen. It has already started [1]. It has increased 100% since 2015. Just in the past decade alone. This is only reported hate crimes. > If you want a better America first you have to envision it instead of tearing it down. That ship has sailed long ago. > American imperialism is well documented. We have military outposts all over the world. Puerto Rico is still in essence a colony. Still not an Empire. You can call it an outward expansion or projection of power but not direct control. An Empire has direct control over colonies that send back tributes which run the Kingdom and give its residents prosperity, at the expense of residents of colonies who are taxed and deprived of their wealth. The tributes outweigh whatever growth is happening within the Kingdom itself. Puerto Rico or any of the military outposts are not equivalent. Puerto Rico does not run USA. USA losing Puerto Rico will not do anything to its economic or military power. [1]: https://usafacts.org/articles/which-groups-have-experienced-an-increase-in-hate-crimes/ https://usafacts.org/articles/which-groups-have-experienced-...

LastTrain 2mo ago

> This nonsense needs to stop. You can’t vote for him again unless he deigns to run for a lower office Oh he will run again, and people will vote for him. The theory underpinning this is the fact that he did not serve consecutive terms and if you think that won’t work; all it takes is one party going along with it. And fuck you for downplaying what he is capable of.

mcmcmc 2mo ago
You keep saying it and it’ll happen. Stop saying it. You give credence to the idea by speaking it into existence. Stop believing and repeating their bullshit and letting them win. If he tries, some states will keep him off the ballot and likely threaten secession if the feds attempt to force him through. That’s the point when doomers like you can decide to get your shit together and forge a compromise, or let the oligarchs have their way and light off a civil war.
- LastTrain 2mo ago
  Yes and I caused Jan 6 by calling out my local Rep. in December 2025 for telling his constituents to storm the Capitol and steal back the election. What compromise on this issue are you looking for?
  - mcmcmc 2mo ago
    The problem is talking about it like a foregone conclusion. You have already accepted he is going to run and are ready to convince the rest of America that he will be on the ballot. You are doing their job for them. The compromise is that corrupt officials on both sides need punished. Both sides need reform. Neither party should have the kind of power Trump has seized. We don’t fix this by voting in a Dem who goes on a GOP witch hunt without also rooting out corruption in the DNC. There has to be enough consensus to pass constitutional reform, and you don’t get there with extremism or hate.
    - inigyou 2mo ago
      You use words like "should" while the other uses words like "is".