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Yes. They'd probably have kept the device for a while, but he wouldn't be in legal trouble.

kypro 1mo ago
That's crazy. Here in the UK border police can question you for any reason (no need for suspicion) and if you refuse to answer questions or give them access to your devices you'll be charged under terror legalisation.
- rootusrootus 1mo ago
  Even if you are a citizen of the UK?
- deleted 1mo ago
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- criddell 1mo ago
  You’ll be charged, but will they be able to get a conviction?
  - infinite_spin 1mo ago
    The charges are the punishment. You are imprisoned, risk losing your career, risk losing reputation, and still have to hire a lawyer. The costs are incredibly asymmetric. This leads to the majority of people complying, which only emboldens the state.
- guax 1mo ago
  Whats more crazy is that this is partially false: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/powers-and-operational-procedure-caseworker-guidance/border-security-asylum-and-immigration-act-2025-seizure-of-electronic-devices-policy-guidance-accessible https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/powers-and-operat... Under normal circumstances, you don't have. BUT there is schedule 7 powers: https://www.counterterrorism.police.uk/what-we-do/counter-terrorism/protect/schedule-7/ https://www.counterterrorism.police.uk/what-we-do/counter-te... > Under Schedule 7, a police officer with the mandated accreditation does not need prior authority or suspicion to stop, question, search, or if necessary, detain someone. However, they may only stop and question a person for the purpose of allowing a determination of whether that person appears to be someone who is or who has been concerned in the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism. How this is abused on the other hand, I presume, might depend on your skin shade.
infinite_spin 1mo ago
Not to sound like a contrarian, but no. They would have thrown it in a faraday bag, cloned the device, and then would use one of the many existing forensic tools available to crack the pin. https://cellebrite.com/en/blog/the-access-gap-is-closed-what-cellebrite-can-unlock-in-2026/ https://cellebrite.com/en/blog/the-access-gap-is-closed-what... https://www.magnetforensics.com/graykey-for-android-devices/ https://www.magnetforensics.com/graykey-for-android-devices/

kypro 1mo ago

That's crazy. Here in the UK border police can question you for any reason (no need for suspicion) and if you refuse to answer questions or give them access to your devices you'll be charged under terror legalisation.

rootusrootus 1mo ago
Even if you are a citizen of the UK?
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criddell 1mo ago
You’ll be charged, but will they be able to get a conviction?
- infinite_spin 1mo ago
  The charges are the punishment. You are imprisoned, risk losing your career, risk losing reputation, and still have to hire a lawyer. The costs are incredibly asymmetric. This leads to the majority of people complying, which only emboldens the state.
guax 1mo ago
Whats more crazy is that this is partially false: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/powers-and-operational-procedure-caseworker-guidance/border-security-asylum-and-immigration-act-2025-seizure-of-electronic-devices-policy-guidance-accessible https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/powers-and-operat... Under normal circumstances, you don't have. BUT there is schedule 7 powers: https://www.counterterrorism.police.uk/what-we-do/counter-terrorism/protect/schedule-7/ https://www.counterterrorism.police.uk/what-we-do/counter-te... > Under Schedule 7, a police officer with the mandated accreditation does not need prior authority or suspicion to stop, question, search, or if necessary, detain someone. However, they may only stop and question a person for the purpose of allowing a determination of whether that person appears to be someone who is or who has been concerned in the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism. How this is abused on the other hand, I presume, might depend on your skin shade.

infinite_spin 1mo ago

Not to sound like a contrarian, but no. They would have thrown it in a faraday bag, cloned the device, and then would use one of the many existing forensic tools available to crack the pin. https://cellebrite.com/en/blog/the-access-gap-is-closed-what-cellebrite-can-unlock-in-2026/ https://cellebrite.com/en/blog/the-access-gap-is-closed-what... https://www.magnetforensics.com/graykey-for-android-devices/ https://www.magnetforensics.com/graykey-for-android-devices/