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Looking at Zillow, there are 64 2-bedroom apartments in SF alone for <= $4k. If you expand your search out of the city the number becomes much higher...

by mcntsh 1mo ago

scoofy 1mo ago
26 of those units are a dorm at SF State. Most of the rest are effectively Bayview, Ingleside/Oceanview, and the Tendernob. I'm not going to argue that you couldn't live in those locations at all. People do, and I'm sure they're lovely. I actually think Ingleside is pretty doable, but it's a very long commute for the price. I'm not going to live in the Tenderloin, and you're probably not going to either. I'm counting 7 apartments (arguably 8) outside of those neighborhoods, and half of those don't list the square footage (a 600sqft "two bedroom" is not a two bedroom).
- mcntsh 1mo ago
  You're moving the goalposts here now to make it seem like the baseline-acceptable lifestyle for someone in the Bay is to live directly in San Francisco and have a short commute in a desirable area with adequate space. By the way, the Bay is bigger than SF. People commute from Milbrae, Daly City, Richmond into SF every day by train and it takes less than an hour.
  - scoofy 1mo ago
    You're moving the goalposts, not me. I specifically said >current rate for a two bedroom in most of SF for a reason. Yes, you can get a cheaper place if you live in a place you don't want to live, but my point is that you don't want to live there. This entire thread is about how tech is moving to NYC, exactly because it's difficult to build a good life in SF. I'm saying, yes the prices have increased to the point where you can't build a good life in SF. If you want to live in the Tenderloin or a dorm at SF State University... by all means go for it, and good luck to you. I'd much rather pack up and move to NYC than live like that.
    - mcntsh 1mo ago
      You said "you can't" (live in the bay, anymore, on less than 200k). The bay is bigger than SF.
      - scoofy 1mo ago
        >Nearly a million people do This is referring to SF, not "the Bay." SF has a population of "nearly a million." The Bay Area has a population of 8 million.

Looking at Zillow, there are 64 2-bedroom apartments in SF alone for <= $4k. If you expand your search out of the city the number becomes much higher...

by mcntsh 1mo ago

Looking at Zillow, there are 64 2-bedroom apartments in SF alone for <= $4k. If you expand your search out of the city the number becomes much higher...

scoofy 1mo ago

26 of those units are a dorm at SF State. Most of the rest are effectively Bayview, Ingleside/Oceanview, and the Tendernob. I'm not going to argue that you couldn't live in those locations at all. People do, and I'm sure they're lovely. I actually think Ingleside is pretty doable, but it's a very long commute for the price. I'm not going to live in the Tenderloin, and you're probably not going to either. I'm counting 7 apartments (arguably 8) outside of those neighborhoods, and half of those don't list the square footage (a 600sqft "two bedroom" is not a two bedroom).

mcntsh 1mo ago
You're moving the goalposts here now to make it seem like the baseline-acceptable lifestyle for someone in the Bay is to live directly in San Francisco and have a short commute in a desirable area with adequate space. By the way, the Bay is bigger than SF. People commute from Milbrae, Daly City, Richmond into SF every day by train and it takes less than an hour.
- scoofy 1mo ago
  You're moving the goalposts, not me. I specifically said >current rate for a two bedroom in most of SF for a reason. Yes, you can get a cheaper place if you live in a place you don't want to live, but my point is that you don't want to live there. This entire thread is about how tech is moving to NYC, exactly because it's difficult to build a good life in SF. I'm saying, yes the prices have increased to the point where you can't build a good life in SF. If you want to live in the Tenderloin or a dorm at SF State University... by all means go for it, and good luck to you. I'd much rather pack up and move to NYC than live like that.
  - mcntsh 1mo ago
    You said "you can't" (live in the bay, anymore, on less than 200k). The bay is bigger than SF.
    - scoofy 1mo ago
      >Nearly a million people do This is referring to SF, not "the Bay." SF has a population of "nearly a million." The Bay Area has a population of 8 million.