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It's Linux for very young men who don't use Linux.

Imustaskforhelp 2mo ago
For what its worth, I am part of the very young men you mention* (currently 18) and I have talked to people my age on discord who use Linux. My opinion is that I think that cachyos is a much more suitable option over omarchy. Personally out of so many of the distros that I have tried including Omarchy, I found Cachyos to be somewhat perfectly balanced (atleast for me). So I highly recommend Cachyos if you haven't already! (On a side note: Fedora is something that I wish to try a bit more as well to be honest and for servers, I mostly use debian/ubuntu or alpine)
- hiccuphippo 2mo ago
  You young people have it good. When I was 18 I started with Slackware.
  - Imustaskforhelp 2mo ago
    Yeah I must admit that Linux is good for us young people and it's certainly getting some more mass appeal. I have been a linux evangelist within my group and although there are a lot of things to complain in the world that we have inherited as the next generation, linux isn't one of them but rather the lack of knowledge about Linux (of how so many people don't know about it) might be it, which is the reason why I have tried to generally promote Linux. although I am on a mac now but I love Linux and I love it so much :) It was fun talking in college to one of my friends about how my PC used to boot from start in 3-5 seconds. (I was using archlinux + systemd boot manager, it was fast to boot!) I have read some Hackernews comment which went into more details of some issues in Linux of the time that you mention. I must admit that compared to it, its a smooth sail now and I wish to thank everyone within the open source contributing to it. What I and my generation/maybe next might be taking for granted is created from the sweet laborious efforts within open source by many folks like you and people who contributed to OSS in general. And I am not just talking about Linux, but also all the things around Linux like KDE, Gnome,Hyprland, Niri, waybar open source applications which support Linux and are actually becoming/are some really great tools, the list is just endless.) Thanks! I think the whole of Linux, its philosophy and its implementations is one of the things which does give me hope. I might be romanticizing it a bit now but isn't it so hopeful what groups of people from all around the world unite on to actually build a better future. I wonder how vastly things could've been different without Open source. Although OSS is having some issues right now in terms of moderation and AI spam, I hope that this is just a bump on a smooth road. It's just so cool. It just makes me so happy when I really think about it. It also joys me that maybe this comment is read by someone who has helped in all of it. It's not all roses and rainbows but when you see open source from its own completeness, zooming out. It's so nice on where we are and where from we have come and for that I must once again thank everyone involved. In short though, OSS in general is genuinely a gift to humanity. (Gentle reminder to please donate to relevant organizations which really need the funding/money folks!, Open source would really help from these donations.)
- TiredOfLife 2mo ago
  I like and use CachyOS, but Omarchi runs on devices that can't even run CachyOS installer
osigurdson 2mo ago
I installed Arch from scratch. Honestly, other than a couple of minor "squirrel catchers" associated with disk formatting it isn't that big of a deal. You don't have to be a graybeard monk to use Linux - Omarchy or not.
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Cakez0r 2mo ago
What don't you like about Omarchy? I'm not young and I used Fedora before Omarchy. I think it's excellent
- ThatMedicIsASpy 2mo ago
  The last state of Omarchy to me was its arch but a script to install that one guys dot files. Nobody has given me a reason to move of Fedora Atomics.
  - Cakez0r 2mo ago
    It was (pretty much) just dot files and curated software, although I think that description downplays the value of having a perfectly tuned system out of the box - like saying a log cabin is just a bunch of sticks. The assembly matters and the end result is something greater than the sum of its parts. That aside, the latest release (Quattro) has also added a bunch of bespoke software (technically quickshell configuration, if you don't want to call it software) which has added a new layer of polish. For my taste it has been a real joy to use and a lot of fun to explore and play around with. Could be worth checking out if you haven't looked in a while!
  - theshrike79 1mo ago
    Not a user, but from what I gather it does stuff like synchronize themes of ALL applications across the OS. So when you change the "omarchy" theme to something, every single application installed uses the same theme. They even paid money to get proper theming support added to software so they could do this. A bit beyond "dotfiles" IMO.
    - Exoristos 1mo ago
      If you've used Linux enough, you understand that's done with dotfiles.
    - Exoristos 1mo ago
      > They even paid money to get proper theming support added to software so they could do this. And doesn't this strike you as a little juvenile, and missing the point of the Linux application ecosystem?
philipallstar 2mo ago
What makes it for very young men?
- nphardon 2mo ago
  Noob friendly, I believe was the implication. Perhaps an implication that on average, the young are more attracted to the surface level ui features that omarchy amplifies, and the easyness of the installation. For us older heads, we also got into linux quite young, but there were not options for easy install, so the install was an integral part of the process that forced you to somewhat deeply learn your machine inside and out, and for me at least, that became a huge part of the appeal. Anecdotally, when i did my first install off a red hat disc in 1995 at age 14, i could not figure out how to configure xwindows so i just gave up and spent 4 solid years in the terminal. This was a formative experience in my life, and one that I would have missed out on if i started with omarchy.
  - philipallstar 1mo ago
    But why "men" if it's just about youth?

For what its worth, I am part of the very young men you mention* (currently 18) and I have talked to people my age on discord who use Linux. My opinion is that I think that cachyos is a much more suitable option over omarchy. Personally out of so many of the distros that I have tried including Omarchy, I found Cachyos to be somewhat perfectly balanced (atleast for me). So I highly recommend Cachyos if you haven't already! (On a side note: Fedora is something that I wish to try a bit more as well to be honest and for servers, I mostly use debian/ubuntu or alpine)

hiccuphippo 2mo ago
You young people have it good. When I was 18 I started with Slackware.
- Imustaskforhelp 2mo ago
  Yeah I must admit that Linux is good for us young people and it's certainly getting some more mass appeal. I have been a linux evangelist within my group and although there are a lot of things to complain in the world that we have inherited as the next generation, linux isn't one of them but rather the lack of knowledge about Linux (of how so many people don't know about it) might be it, which is the reason why I have tried to generally promote Linux. although I am on a mac now but I love Linux and I love it so much :) It was fun talking in college to one of my friends about how my PC used to boot from start in 3-5 seconds. (I was using archlinux + systemd boot manager, it was fast to boot!) I have read some Hackernews comment which went into more details of some issues in Linux of the time that you mention. I must admit that compared to it, its a smooth sail now and I wish to thank everyone within the open source contributing to it. What I and my generation/maybe next might be taking for granted is created from the sweet laborious efforts within open source by many folks like you and people who contributed to OSS in general. And I am not just talking about Linux, but also all the things around Linux like KDE, Gnome,Hyprland, Niri, waybar open source applications which support Linux and are actually becoming/are some really great tools, the list is just endless.) Thanks! I think the whole of Linux, its philosophy and its implementations is one of the things which does give me hope. I might be romanticizing it a bit now but isn't it so hopeful what groups of people from all around the world unite on to actually build a better future. I wonder how vastly things could've been different without Open source. Although OSS is having some issues right now in terms of moderation and AI spam, I hope that this is just a bump on a smooth road. It's just so cool. It just makes me so happy when I really think about it. It also joys me that maybe this comment is read by someone who has helped in all of it. It's not all roses and rainbows but when you see open source from its own completeness, zooming out. It's so nice on where we are and where from we have come and for that I must once again thank everyone involved. In short though, OSS in general is genuinely a gift to humanity. (Gentle reminder to please donate to relevant organizations which really need the funding/money folks!, Open source would really help from these donations.)
TiredOfLife 2mo ago
I like and use CachyOS, but Omarchi runs on devices that can't even run CachyOS installer

osigurdson 2mo ago

I installed Arch from scratch. Honestly, other than a couple of minor "squirrel catchers" associated with disk formatting it isn't that big of a deal. You don't have to be a graybeard monk to use Linux - Omarchy or not.

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Cakez0r 2mo ago

What don't you like about Omarchy? I'm not young and I used Fedora before Omarchy. I think it's excellent

ThatMedicIsASpy 2mo ago
The last state of Omarchy to me was its arch but a script to install that one guys dot files. Nobody has given me a reason to move of Fedora Atomics.
- Cakez0r 2mo ago
  It was (pretty much) just dot files and curated software, although I think that description downplays the value of having a perfectly tuned system out of the box - like saying a log cabin is just a bunch of sticks. The assembly matters and the end result is something greater than the sum of its parts. That aside, the latest release (Quattro) has also added a bunch of bespoke software (technically quickshell configuration, if you don't want to call it software) which has added a new layer of polish. For my taste it has been a real joy to use and a lot of fun to explore and play around with. Could be worth checking out if you haven't looked in a while!
- theshrike79 1mo ago
  Not a user, but from what I gather it does stuff like synchronize themes of ALL applications across the OS. So when you change the "omarchy" theme to something, every single application installed uses the same theme. They even paid money to get proper theming support added to software so they could do this. A bit beyond "dotfiles" IMO.
  - Exoristos 1mo ago
    If you've used Linux enough, you understand that's done with dotfiles.
  - Exoristos 1mo ago
    > They even paid money to get proper theming support added to software so they could do this. And doesn't this strike you as a little juvenile, and missing the point of the Linux application ecosystem?

philipallstar 2mo ago

What makes it for very young men?

nphardon 2mo ago
Noob friendly, I believe was the implication. Perhaps an implication that on average, the young are more attracted to the surface level ui features that omarchy amplifies, and the easyness of the installation. For us older heads, we also got into linux quite young, but there were not options for easy install, so the install was an integral part of the process that forced you to somewhat deeply learn your machine inside and out, and for me at least, that became a huge part of the appeal. Anecdotally, when i did my first install off a red hat disc in 1995 at age 14, i could not figure out how to configure xwindows so i just gave up and spent 4 solid years in the terminal. This was a formative experience in my life, and one that I would have missed out on if i started with omarchy.
- philipallstar 1mo ago
  But why "men" if it's just about youth?