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Absolutely not. I don't feel it's necessary to pay the sacrifices needed for a trustless society. I would much rather be able to have things like personalised

Absolutely not. I don't feel it's necessary to pay the sacrifices needed for a trustless society. I would much rather be able to have things like personalised searches (which are identifying).

Cider9986 1mo ago
>I would much rather be able to have things like personalised searches (which are identifying). This wouldn't affect your accounts usability or features it would just delink your payment from your account. Same as paying for Mullvad with a giftcard bought on Amazon. I don't really understand your first paragraph.
- notpushkin 1mo ago
  Privacy Pass would decouple each search from the account. I think it’s okay to have as an opt-in thing. But private payments should be the default IMO.
  - Cider9986 1mo ago
    I see. I mispoke with "privacy pass" although it's similar. I meant like a one time break between your payment and account for regular accounts underneath the option to use privacy pass. Like posteo does it or Brave does it for Origin: https://posteo.de/en/site/payment https://posteo.de/en/site/payment
    - notpushkin 1mo ago
      I think we’re broadly in agreement: the more private options we have (with different levels of privacy), the better. It’s possible, in theory, to use Privacy Pass to allow e.g. using credit card to pay for the whole subscription without associating the account with the payment. (E.g. one payment gives you 1 “pass”, and it can be used to extend your account validity for one month.) In practice, it’ll probably be fairly easy to correlate a payment with an account extension, as those would happen almost simultaneously, so a couple more levels are needed here (e.g. doing this through resellers, and maybe breaking up the subscription payment into, say, 30 “day passes” which are used in random order to make it harder to track). Posteo’s “one-time code system” is a fair bit weaker than Privacy Pass btw: when they get a payment, they can still associate it with your account (so if you’ve paid using, say, bank transfer, they will know your name, and you’ll have to trust them not to store the link). But it can be used together with Privacy Pass :-)

Absolutely not. I don't feel it's necessary to pay the sacrifices needed for a trustless society. I would much rather be able to have things like personalised searches (which are identifying).

Cider9986 1mo ago

>I would much rather be able to have things like personalised searches (which are identifying). This wouldn't affect your accounts usability or features it would just delink your payment from your account. Same as paying for Mullvad with a giftcard bought on Amazon. I don't really understand your first paragraph.

notpushkin 1mo ago
Privacy Pass would decouple each search from the account. I think it’s okay to have as an opt-in thing. But private payments should be the default IMO.
- Cider9986 1mo ago
  I see. I mispoke with "privacy pass" although it's similar. I meant like a one time break between your payment and account for regular accounts underneath the option to use privacy pass. Like posteo does it or Brave does it for Origin: https://posteo.de/en/site/payment https://posteo.de/en/site/payment
  - notpushkin 1mo ago
    I think we’re broadly in agreement: the more private options we have (with different levels of privacy), the better. It’s possible, in theory, to use Privacy Pass to allow e.g. using credit card to pay for the whole subscription without associating the account with the payment. (E.g. one payment gives you 1 “pass”, and it can be used to extend your account validity for one month.) In practice, it’ll probably be fairly easy to correlate a payment with an account extension, as those would happen almost simultaneously, so a couple more levels are needed here (e.g. doing this through resellers, and maybe breaking up the subscription payment into, say, 30 “day passes” which are used in random order to make it harder to track). Posteo’s “one-time code system” is a fair bit weaker than Privacy Pass btw: when they get a payment, they can still associate it with your account (so if you’ve paid using, say, bank transfer, they will know your name, and you’ll have to trust them not to store the link). But it can be used together with Privacy Pass :-)