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Felonies go before a grand jury in Ohio. The article talks about damages in excess of $1,000, which probably means it's a felony charge on that basis.
by wl 1mo ago
Felonies go before a grand jury in Ohio. The article talks about damages in excess of $1,000, which probably means it's a felony charge on that basis.
- goda90 1mo agoWhat makes an ALPR cost more than $1000 per unit?
- kiddico 1mo agoThe markup I assume
- s_tec 1mo agoProbably the pole, footing, and wages for the installation crew.
- kirykl 1mo agoThe starting value of felony
- KPGv2 1mo agoA quick google reveals a Flock camera costs about $2500 and there's a few hundred dollars in install fees.
- parineum 1mo agoHigh quality cameras are expensive.
- dawnerd 1mo agoEquivalent quality cameras can be had for 100-200. Not that expensive.
- SoftTalker 1mo agoIn a weather-proof, UV-resistant housing, with battery and solar panel for charging, designed to meet municipal and traffic safety specs, and with turn-key service, all at the usual markup for dealing with all that and because there are almost no competitive alternatives, it sounds pretty typical. Even a simple stop sign is hundreds of dollars when you consider all the costs associated with its installation.
- dawnerd 1mo agoLook up guardrail guy's video on their installs. They are not up to code. Even the newer installs that do include breakaways are failing.
- mlrtime 1mo agohttps://store.ui.com/us/en/products/uvc-ai-lpr https://store.ui.com/us/en/products/uvc-ai-lpr $500 for one of the best [that I know of] consumer LPR cameras. Non-consumer versions go for thousands.
- dawnerd 1mo agoAnd the cameras Flock are using are no where near that good of quality. The claim was high quality cameras are expensive. Flock is using pretty cheap components. There's been multiple tear-downs showing just how budget built they are.
- ibejoeb 1mo agoAll the reasons in the other repliues, and it's also not just an ALPR.
- gosub100 1mo agoGo tear one down and see for yourself. We don't want to ruin the surprise for you.
- Sohcahtoa82 1mo agoFraming Flock as just an ALPR always feels disingenuous to me. More charitably, it's at least naive. And even if it WAS and will only ever be an ALPR, I'm incredulous that people would accept it.
- burnt-resistor 1mo agoYes, stop calling them "ALPRs" because they're not. It's the surveillance industry's marketing wank to make them seem benign, limited, and a police tool when it's (and similar products) really a video/audio?/wifi?/bt?/sdr?* panopticon that generates fallible metadata about maybe you, maybe your car, and maybe your stuff that will be saved forever, to be offered for sale forever to almost any company, government, or individual in the world with money for any purpose. They say they'll delete "data" in X days, but what they really mean is original source video only. There's no guarantee they'll delete anything else because their moneymaker is compiling sellable "histories" of and AI training data about people, vehicles, and other objects. Streetlight light sensor ports are being used to retrofit lights with smart lights containing advanced neighborhood spy "cameras" with additional features. So there's more than just standalone or telephone pole-mounted "ALPRs". * It's not a huge cost and there's obvious motivations to iterate to include additional sensors &| radios to gather additional raw data by using the fleet of "ALPRs" as a platform. Many "ALPRs" have microphones. Some smart streetlight ones do wifi/bt fingerprinting.
- Someone1234 1mo agoLooks like in Ohio the thresholds are: - 0 to $999: misdemeanor - 1K: 5th-degree felony - 7.5K-150K: 4th-degree felony - 150K+: 3th-degree felony But what I found interesting is - They aren't automatically inflation adjusted, it has to be manually adjusted by legislation. Which hasn't been done since 2011 meaning that in 2026 terms it would be $1.5K~ for a 5th-degree felony for like-for-like level of damage. Kind of nuts how a poorly written law can increase the number of felonies just due to inflation alone. Although a lot of things aren't automatically inflation adjusted (e.g. minimum wage), and I think commonly it is on purpose rather than an accident. They WANT harsher sentences for relative low crimes.
- testing22321 1mo ago> Although a lot of things aren't automatically inflation adjusted (e.g. minimum wage) You know what is, though? The annual budget a senator is allocated for furniture in their office. This year it’s $40,000. Priorities.
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- preg_match 1mo agoPart of me feels this is intentional. I have a hard time believing legislators don’t know about inflation. Most politicians are trying to maximize the people put behind bars, and this is one subtle systemic way to contribute to that.
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