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> Are those the people you want to hire for software development jobs though? Why do you think the job posting doesn't explicitly mention "owning a PC" as a re

by buran77 2mo ago

> Are those the people you want to hire for software development jobs though? Why do you think the job posting doesn't explicitly mention "owning a PC" as a requirement? If it's a relevant criterion why not make it clear there? If it's not, why have it at all, only to keep it hidden in your biases? Accepting to run random code sent by someone you don't know should be a red flag for them. Getting asked to run random code sent by someone you don't know should be a red flag for you.

mrheosuper 2mo ago
it's a red flag, not hard requirement. Most of talent devs i met usually code in their free time when they were in school. You dont need PC to do that, but it's much more convenient to have your own PC. and with PC is so accessible now (you can even find free PC in some cases), that tells me you are not really passionate about software dev.
leoedin 2mo ago
> Accepting to run random code sent by someone you don't know should be a red flag for them. Getting asked to run random code sent by someone you don't know should be a red flag for you. This is a different problem. If a candidate said "I don't want to run the code you send me" it might be a good opportunity to talk through what it does. Maybe I'd set up a VM for them in the cloud, or we could find a mutually acceptable solution. If a candidate says "I don't own a general purpose computing device" then I would really be questioning that candidates interest in computers, and therefore ability to develop and test software for them. > Why do you think the job posting doesn't explicitly mention "owning a PC" as a requirement? The job description also doesn't say "owns clean clothes", but how the candidate presents themselves is certainly a consideration when hiring.
- buran77 2mo ago
  > This is a different problem. Obviously. I just figured I'd point you to the real red flags you missed instead of the "I find it weird so it's a problem" thing. > The job description also doesn't say "owns clean clothes" That's a false parallel. A commenter higher up already pointed out to you that the candidate could own a tablet. An iPad Pro M5 is faster than most laptops, perfectly good for coding, and not able to run any of the crap sent out by the interviewer which likely expects desktop OSes. The advert also shouldn't mention such a thing. Some people work remotely, others could honestly tell you they'll get better clothes from the first salary. If you're interviewing someone, they're the best at the job but you stumble on this, it's definitely a red flag. For the candidate, to look elsewhere. Why would you want to work for an employer who focuses more on the sweat stains on your armpit than the actual work or your character? And now let me paint a different picture to understand the magnitude of the unfairness in your logic. I assume you are the Leo Rampen from the website you advertise in your profile. How many red flags do you count from someone advertising a blog which at the time of writing this has a certificate expired more than a month ago, and the last content update is more than a decade old? How does this reflect on a multi-disciplinary HW/SW engineer who even works on things as critical as satellites? This is to say, don't focus of flagging trivialities. You'll probably look in all the wrong places.

by buran77 2mo ago

mrheosuper 2mo ago

it's a red flag, not hard requirement. Most of talent devs i met usually code in their free time when they were in school. You dont need PC to do that, but it's much more convenient to have your own PC. and with PC is so accessible now (you can even find free PC in some cases), that tells me you are not really passionate about software dev.

leoedin 2mo ago

> Accepting to run random code sent by someone you don't know should be a red flag for them. Getting asked to run random code sent by someone you don't know should be a red flag for you. This is a different problem. If a candidate said "I don't want to run the code you send me" it might be a good opportunity to talk through what it does. Maybe I'd set up a VM for them in the cloud, or we could find a mutually acceptable solution. If a candidate says "I don't own a general purpose computing device" then I would really be questioning that candidates interest in computers, and therefore ability to develop and test software for them. > Why do you think the job posting doesn't explicitly mention "owning a PC" as a requirement? The job description also doesn't say "owns clean clothes", but how the candidate presents themselves is certainly a consideration when hiring.

buran77 2mo ago
> This is a different problem. Obviously. I just figured I'd point you to the real red flags you missed instead of the "I find it weird so it's a problem" thing. > The job description also doesn't say "owns clean clothes" That's a false parallel. A commenter higher up already pointed out to you that the candidate could own a tablet. An iPad Pro M5 is faster than most laptops, perfectly good for coding, and not able to run any of the crap sent out by the interviewer which likely expects desktop OSes. The advert also shouldn't mention such a thing. Some people work remotely, others could honestly tell you they'll get better clothes from the first salary. If you're interviewing someone, they're the best at the job but you stumble on this, it's definitely a red flag. For the candidate, to look elsewhere. Why would you want to work for an employer who focuses more on the sweat stains on your armpit than the actual work or your character? And now let me paint a different picture to understand the magnitude of the unfairness in your logic. I assume you are the Leo Rampen from the website you advertise in your profile. How many red flags do you count from someone advertising a blog which at the time of writing this has a certificate expired more than a month ago, and the last content update is more than a decade old? How does this reflect on a multi-disciplinary HW/SW engineer who even works on things as critical as satellites? This is to say, don't focus of flagging trivialities. You'll probably look in all the wrong places.