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Some existing customers might drop off But obviously you need 16 seats to drop for every paying seat in order for that to earn less money It also opens up a n

Some existing customers might drop off But obviously you need 16 seats to drop for every paying seat in order for that to earn less money It also opens up a new market that takes them more seriously I dabbled in dropshipping and would literally put the same ebay ad at a 1,000% market next to the (seemingly undervalued) supplier I would buy from If you searched the item you would see both ads and people bought from me (you can’t do that at scale without getting flagged on that platform but a $8,000 pick me up was fine)

antisthenes 2mo ago
This reminds me of the game Eve Online. One of the frequent stories to hit the grapevine was someone putting up a common item at an insane price point in Jita or other popular trading system. And people would buy them (rarely, but consistently). Something like a piece of an asteroid ore at 50 million ISK. It's not exactly a crime, but for me it definitely sits in a moral grey area, somewhere between American Health care and selling bottled water in the desert for $1million/bottle.
- WarmWash 2mo ago
  Probably the same people who doordash a $43 big mac at 8pm because "I'm hungry and I don't want to have to get up and drive over there"
- lotsofpulp 2mo ago
  A willing buyer and seller engaging in a transaction for a digital luxury good is not as bad as “American healthcare”, but better than killing someone by depriving them of life saving water? Or is it not as bad as killing someone by depriving them of life saving water, but better than “American healthcare”? The use of that scale is not making sense to me.
- rcxdude 2mo ago
  That depends. There's a few different trading scams in Eve but it does implement a pretty standard trading book, and so the way that works someone listing a price way above what anyone else is offering is never going to have their order filled. (if you do happen to accidentally offer to buy something at a wildly inflated price, then the person offering it for cheapest gets a windfall).
- NikolaNovak 2mo ago
  I would've assumed it's small scale laundering. What you're saying is it may just be a very cheeky and brazen sales tactic? "Doesn't hurt to try"...
- yieldcrv 2mo ago
  your moral system relies on infantilizing the consumer and removing agency from them do you think there is not enough transparency or something? a UX problem in the interface that makes you sympathize more? a fundamental and unexplained discomfort with seeking to earn instead of spend? what exactly would have to change in this relationship for you to not infantilize the consumer and put them on equal moral weighting as the merchant?
  - ydat 2mo ago
    > what exactly would have to change in this relationship for you to not infantilize the consumer and put them on equal moral weighting as the merchant? Lmao lolbertarians now steeping to blank slatism to defend their degeneracy.
    - yieldcrv 2mo ago
      asking for an ELI5 after noticing a pattern doesn't seem like defending something to me, and I don't know how else to word it if it does seem like that even after carefully choosing my words I asked a lot of questions, what are the answers?
  - antisthenes 2mo ago
    > what exactly would have to change in this relationship for you to not infantilize the consumer and put them on equal moral weighting as the merchant? What in the world are you talking about?
    - yieldcrv 2mo ago
      what you described sounds morally benign I’m guessing at why you don’t see it that way, I’ve seen similar value systems so I’m transposing those as the near guess onto yours in the meantime
      - antisthenes 2mo ago
        > I’m guessing at why you don’t see it that way, I’ve seen similar value systems so I’m transposing those as the near guess onto yours in the meantime I just made a not-great comparison, since the stakes of a video game item and things like health care are not the same. What I was trying to get at it is a situation where little value is provided at great cost to the consumer in an imperfect information scenario.

antisthenes 2mo ago

This reminds me of the game Eve Online. One of the frequent stories to hit the grapevine was someone putting up a common item at an insane price point in Jita or other popular trading system. And people would buy them (rarely, but consistently). Something like a piece of an asteroid ore at 50 million ISK. It's not exactly a crime, but for me it definitely sits in a moral grey area, somewhere between American Health care and selling bottled water in the desert for $1million/bottle.

WarmWash 2mo ago
Probably the same people who doordash a $43 big mac at 8pm because "I'm hungry and I don't want to have to get up and drive over there"
lotsofpulp 2mo ago
A willing buyer and seller engaging in a transaction for a digital luxury good is not as bad as “American healthcare”, but better than killing someone by depriving them of life saving water? Or is it not as bad as killing someone by depriving them of life saving water, but better than “American healthcare”? The use of that scale is not making sense to me.
rcxdude 2mo ago
That depends. There's a few different trading scams in Eve but it does implement a pretty standard trading book, and so the way that works someone listing a price way above what anyone else is offering is never going to have their order filled. (if you do happen to accidentally offer to buy something at a wildly inflated price, then the person offering it for cheapest gets a windfall).
NikolaNovak 2mo ago
I would've assumed it's small scale laundering. What you're saying is it may just be a very cheeky and brazen sales tactic? "Doesn't hurt to try"...
yieldcrv 2mo ago
your moral system relies on infantilizing the consumer and removing agency from them do you think there is not enough transparency or something? a UX problem in the interface that makes you sympathize more? a fundamental and unexplained discomfort with seeking to earn instead of spend? what exactly would have to change in this relationship for you to not infantilize the consumer and put them on equal moral weighting as the merchant?
- ydat 2mo ago
  > what exactly would have to change in this relationship for you to not infantilize the consumer and put them on equal moral weighting as the merchant? Lmao lolbertarians now steeping to blank slatism to defend their degeneracy.
  - yieldcrv 2mo ago
    asking for an ELI5 after noticing a pattern doesn't seem like defending something to me, and I don't know how else to word it if it does seem like that even after carefully choosing my words I asked a lot of questions, what are the answers?
- antisthenes 2mo ago
  > what exactly would have to change in this relationship for you to not infantilize the consumer and put them on equal moral weighting as the merchant? What in the world are you talking about?
  - yieldcrv 2mo ago
    what you described sounds morally benign I’m guessing at why you don’t see it that way, I’ve seen similar value systems so I’m transposing those as the near guess onto yours in the meantime
    - antisthenes 2mo ago
      > I’m guessing at why you don’t see it that way, I’ve seen similar value systems so I’m transposing those as the near guess onto yours in the meantime I just made a not-great comparison, since the stakes of a video game item and things like health care are not the same. What I was trying to get at it is a situation where little value is provided at great cost to the consumer in an imperfect information scenario.