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Its more complicated. Even somebody who is a dead end- can feed back into a extended clan-family and thus enrich the survival of related traits. And when you c

Its more complicated. Even somebody who is a dead end- can feed back into a extended clan-family and thus enrich the survival of related traits. And when you contribute to a societey that overproduces resources, thrives scientifically and does not carry a load of parasites, then your career actions may push the cohort fitness. This of course implies that the offspring of dedicated focus personal has desert flower traits- meaning every offspring will be dumb as a rock, and pro at procreation. Meaning clever people will have "Hippie" pregnant machine offspring and the "spiritual" birth-machines will have hyper-analytical "dead-enders". None of them happy with the state of the world. Life as they say- finds a way- to make you despair with the result of the affair.

bluGill 2mo ago
It is far more complicated. I touched on the high level, but somebody in philosophy can write books on the subject (they probably know about many many books on the subject).
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- teiferer 2mo ago
  Or you just, you know, enjoy life ..? When I read your comments above I feel you have the desperate need to go hug a tree. Try it, it may work wonders. (And I mean all that in the most positive way possible.)
  - bluGill 2mo ago
    I thought a good summary of my comment would be "sometimes you need to hug a tree, even though it is useless for anything practical".
    - teiferer 2mo ago
      Increased happiness is very useful, in my view. That does not necessarily require increase in income. In fact, beyond a certain level (which is not that high), income level and happiness are not correlated anymore. In other words, investing energy into increasing income does at that point rarely result in more happiness. So, why do it, especially if that energy could go more directly into activities that actually increase happiness?

bluGill 2mo ago

It is far more complicated. I touched on the high level, but somebody in philosophy can write books on the subject (they probably know about many many books on the subject).

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teiferer 2mo ago
Or you just, you know, enjoy life ..? When I read your comments above I feel you have the desperate need to go hug a tree. Try it, it may work wonders. (And I mean all that in the most positive way possible.)
- bluGill 2mo ago
  I thought a good summary of my comment would be "sometimes you need to hug a tree, even though it is useless for anything practical".
  - teiferer 2mo ago
    Increased happiness is very useful, in my view. That does not necessarily require increase in income. In fact, beyond a certain level (which is not that high), income level and happiness are not correlated anymore. In other words, investing energy into increasing income does at that point rarely result in more happiness. So, why do it, especially if that energy could go more directly into activities that actually increase happiness?