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Write yourself and tell the AI: "Fix the spelling and grammar. Do not change the structure or meaning" then.

by coldtea 2mo ago

ModernMech 2mo ago
Agreed that’s a good practice but for some very hardline people even that’s not considered acceptable. It’s very hard to understand what people consider right and wrong so I’ve just stopped listening. Also people are weirdly hypocritical about it. E.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammingLanguages/s/svUzbNy2oj https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammingLanguages/s/svUzbNy2oj No tolerance policy for 77 of 10k lines, but exceptions made for language with unashamed use of large swaths of LLM code because it’s popular with the author. People just aren’t being consistent at all. Even when they draw hard lines.
- christophilus 2mo ago
  Well, those people would be opposed to using spellcheck and grammar tools, too, I guess. I don’t think there’s a reasonable argument against using AI to spellcheck/check your grammar other than that it’s hugely inefficient.
  - ModernMech 2mo ago
    The argument as I've heard it explained to me by someone with a banhammer: "One use of AI no matter how benign is not acceptable because usage is infectious; after even the most minimal use of AI, we can't tell what was AI and what wasn't, therefore the only acceptable position is no AI whatsoever"
    - nchmy 2mo ago
      Surely we can all agree that banhammer people are generally not a good standard to go by? Still, if you value participating in that space, you have no choice but to follow their rules
je42 2mo ago
Sure. For small changes it would work. However, for larger documents the effort increases a lot. LLM speeds things like "making use of terminolgy" in the document consitent. Restructuring, combine parapgraphs etc. a lot faster. In the old days it would take me weeks to get a good document out of door. Now a it is days. While the absolute number of iterations polishing is higher.

Write yourself and tell the AI: "Fix the spelling and grammar. Do not change the structure or meaning" then.

by coldtea 2mo ago

Write yourself and tell the AI: "Fix the spelling and grammar. Do not change the structure or meaning" then.

Agreed that’s a good practice but for some very hardline people even that’s not considered acceptable. It’s very hard to understand what people consider right and wrong so I’ve just stopped listening. Also people are weirdly hypocritical about it. E.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammingLanguages/s/svUzbNy2oj https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammingLanguages/s/svUzbNy2oj No tolerance policy for 77 of 10k lines, but exceptions made for language with unashamed use of large swaths of LLM code because it’s popular with the author. People just aren’t being consistent at all. Even when they draw hard lines.

christophilus 2mo ago
Well, those people would be opposed to using spellcheck and grammar tools, too, I guess. I don’t think there’s a reasonable argument against using AI to spellcheck/check your grammar other than that it’s hugely inefficient.
- ModernMech 2mo ago
  The argument as I've heard it explained to me by someone with a banhammer: "One use of AI no matter how benign is not acceptable because usage is infectious; after even the most minimal use of AI, we can't tell what was AI and what wasn't, therefore the only acceptable position is no AI whatsoever"
  - nchmy 2mo ago
    Surely we can all agree that banhammer people are generally not a good standard to go by? Still, if you value participating in that space, you have no choice but to follow their rules

je42 2mo ago

Sure. For small changes it would work. However, for larger documents the effort increases a lot. LLM speeds things like "making use of terminolgy" in the document consitent. Restructuring, combine parapgraphs etc. a lot faster. In the old days it would take me weeks to get a good document out of door. Now a it is days. While the absolute number of iterations polishing is higher.