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Markdown is still a structure. It may be a very loose one, but it still enables a reader (of any flavour) to, for example, determine which parts of the text are

Markdown is still a structure. It may be a very loose one, but it still enables a reader (of any flavour) to, for example, determine which parts of the text are code and which aren't.

embedding-shape 1mo ago
No, Markdown is "syntax", quite literally not about structured data in any sense of the word, at least for existing pre-LLM developers where "structured data" has a real meaning already, you can't just go around redefining what concepts mean :) > determine which parts of the text are code and which aren't With this argument you'd could claim ASCII/plaintext is "structured data" too, just group code with "===" and that's evident. Obviously that doesn't make a format "structured data".
- oneeyedpigeon 1mo ago
  OK, this argument is getting semantic and, therefore, uninteresting. I think you know what I meant, even if I used some words in a different way than you would have liked.
  - embedding-shape 1mo ago
    > this argument is getting semantic Well, it was semantic from the beginning, the whole discussion I raised is because you seem unable to understand what "structured data" actually means in reality. I know perfectly fine what you meant, and you were misinformed about the meaning, it's OK to just say "Yeah, you're right" or just don't reply at all instead of double-down on not understand the meaning of words. Anyways, enjoy your day.
    - oneeyedpigeon 1mo ago
      This used to be a nice place to have sensible discussions. Sadly, it seems, some people want to turn it into Reddit. Please enjoy your day, too; it seems like you could do with your mood improving.
      - embedding-shape 1mo ago
        It still is a very nice place for sensible discussions, given the right seed for discussions. People used to be thankful to learn they were wrong too, although I won't claim HN is turning into reddit, lest we break the very guidelines we apparently are upset about being broken. Oh no, my mood is great, life couldn't be better. Don't mistake me wanting people to use words they understand for me being upset, it's just words and text, ultimately it all has little meaning compared to the grandness of life.

Markdown is still a structure. It may be a very loose one, but it still enables a reader (of any flavour) to, for example, determine which parts of the text are code and which aren't.

embedding-shape 1mo ago

No, Markdown is "syntax", quite literally not about structured data in any sense of the word, at least for existing pre-LLM developers where "structured data" has a real meaning already, you can't just go around redefining what concepts mean :) > determine which parts of the text are code and which aren't With this argument you'd could claim ASCII/plaintext is "structured data" too, just group code with "===" and that's evident. Obviously that doesn't make a format "structured data".

oneeyedpigeon 1mo ago
OK, this argument is getting semantic and, therefore, uninteresting. I think you know what I meant, even if I used some words in a different way than you would have liked.
- embedding-shape 1mo ago
  > this argument is getting semantic Well, it was semantic from the beginning, the whole discussion I raised is because you seem unable to understand what "structured data" actually means in reality. I know perfectly fine what you meant, and you were misinformed about the meaning, it's OK to just say "Yeah, you're right" or just don't reply at all instead of double-down on not understand the meaning of words. Anyways, enjoy your day.
  - oneeyedpigeon 1mo ago
    This used to be a nice place to have sensible discussions. Sadly, it seems, some people want to turn it into Reddit. Please enjoy your day, too; it seems like you could do with your mood improving.
    - embedding-shape 1mo ago
      It still is a very nice place for sensible discussions, given the right seed for discussions. People used to be thankful to learn they were wrong too, although I won't claim HN is turning into reddit, lest we break the very guidelines we apparently are upset about being broken. Oh no, my mood is great, life couldn't be better. Don't mistake me wanting people to use words they understand for me being upset, it's just words and text, ultimately it all has little meaning compared to the grandness of life.