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I was about to delete my Instagram account when I saw this, but having given it a bit of thought, I'm actually ok with it. Instagram needs to get money from so

I was about to delete my Instagram account when I saw this, but having given it a bit of thought, I'm actually ok with it. Instagram needs to get money from somewhere, and as far as I'm concerned selling my photos is preferable to filling the feeds with ads. However I can see how for a lot of people they'd rather have ads then have their photos sold (especially pro photographers) so it'll be interesting to see how many users they loose over this. Also it goes with out saying that if they do put adverts in, I'm out.

pavel_lishin 14y ago
Personal call, I suppose, but if I take a picture of a friend of mine and then that photos hows up in a weight-loss ad on the subway, I am probably going to lose a friend.
ScottWhigham 14y ago
I don't understand why people have downvoted this yet far more inane comments that are older haven't been downvoted as much (case in point: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4936978 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4936978). This is an "expressed opinion" - it's not "inane banter" (like this one: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4936806 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4936806) - yet people have downvoted it because they disagree. It doesn't express the hive mind thus the downvotes rain in. So weird...
jonknee 14y ago
It sounds crazy, but what if they let you pay for your use of Instagram? You pay them money, they give you a service and no one has to argue over IP.
shardling 14y ago
As pointed out elsewhere, it's more than a little weird that they could use pictures you took of your friends. Even if the chance is incredibly small, I'm not ok with that. And since it's not worth the hassle of constantly being mindful of what I'm uploading, I'm going to delete my account. Which is a pity, since Instagram's photo app seems to do a lot of nice automatic color balancing compared to the native Android app. :(
declan 14y ago
Matt: It is, as you say, likely a deal breaker for aspiring or pro photographers. And in the end it's also a case of "their servers, their rules." But there's a difference between telling users clearly this is what you're doing, and putting it in the headline of a blog post, vs. inserting this language into the middle of a terms of use agreement. I don't think anyone here begrudges Instagram making money. But being upfront with the users who just made the founders $1B (well, maybe $700M) is something that's not unreasonable to expect.
halostatue 14y ago
I am likely to delete my Instagram account because of this—this isn't going to out well for them at all and not just because of licensing issues. Legally, they will be in deep trouble the first time they sell any pictures with people in them because none‡ of them will have signed a model release. I'm not OK with giving them resale rights to my pictures. ‡ A tiny fraction of a tiny fraction will have, but that release will be with the photographer. Tracking that down will be their responsibility.

pavel_lishin 14y ago

Personal call, I suppose, but if I take a picture of a friend of mine and then that photos hows up in a weight-loss ad on the subway, I am probably going to lose a friend.

ScottWhigham 14y ago

I don't understand why people have downvoted this yet far more inane comments that are older haven't been downvoted as much (case in point: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4936978 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4936978). This is an "expressed opinion" - it's not "inane banter" (like this one: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4936806 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4936806) - yet people have downvoted it because they disagree. It doesn't express the hive mind thus the downvotes rain in. So weird...

jonknee 14y ago

It sounds crazy, but what if they let you pay for your use of Instagram? You pay them money, they give you a service and no one has to argue over IP.

shardling 14y ago

As pointed out elsewhere, it's more than a little weird that they could use pictures you took of your friends. Even if the chance is incredibly small, I'm not ok with that. And since it's not worth the hassle of constantly being mindful of what I'm uploading, I'm going to delete my account. Which is a pity, since Instagram's photo app seems to do a lot of nice automatic color balancing compared to the native Android app. :(

declan 14y ago

Matt: It is, as you say, likely a deal breaker for aspiring or pro photographers. And in the end it's also a case of "their servers, their rules." But there's a difference between telling users clearly this is what you're doing, and putting it in the headline of a blog post, vs. inserting this language into the middle of a terms of use agreement. I don't think anyone here begrudges Instagram making money. But being upfront with the users who just made the founders $1B (well, maybe $700M) is something that's not unreasonable to expect.

halostatue 14y ago

I am likely to delete my Instagram account because of this—this isn't going to out well for them at all and not just because of licensing issues. Legally, they will be in deep trouble the first time they sell any pictures with people in them because none‡ of them will have signed a model release. I'm not OK with giving them resale rights to my pictures. ‡ A tiny fraction of a tiny fraction will have, but that release will be with the photographer. Tracking that down will be their responsibility.