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Purely an anecdote, but I've found Qwen3.8-27b doesn't doom loop like previous Qwen models would. With that said, it absolutely thinks in circles- it'll prepare
by zdragnar 2mo ago
Purely an anecdote, but I've found Qwen3.8-27b doesn't doom loop like previous Qwen models would. With that said, it absolutely thinks in circles- it'll prepare to do something, say it is now ready to do it, then follow that with three paragraphs that all start with Acutally... Oh wait, I should check first... Hmm, hmm... I should stop guessing and just do it. Okay, I'm ready to do the thing now... Actually, wait...
It takes forever, but it does actually get around to making things work, and it is more thorough and produces better code than previous qwen models. You just need to let it run quite awhile.
- zenoprax 2mo agoI've seen the same thing. I tried the "superpowers" meta-harness and gave it a simple web app task and it spent 4 hours to make a basic timer app. I might try restricting the amount of thinking it is allowed to do to 500-1000 tokens.
- stkdump 2mo agoThere is a native reasoning effort setting. It defaults to xhigh, I guess to get the best benchmark results, but you can just run it on medium or low instead, or for simple things even disable thinking outright.
- lifepillar 2mo agoAccording to this guy [0], medium is the level that tends to produce way less tokens in agentic workflows ("low" may output less per response, but then the model makes more mistakes, so it needs to iterate more). [0] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z64J6bC16iQ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z64J6bC16iQ
- zenoprax 2mo agoGreat, thanks! I'll try it out.