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If you run GrapeheneOS on it and use it as your full machine while wired to a display or three, sure. Otherwise, in no world is $1100 for a cell phone anything
by DANmode 2mo ago
If you run GrapeheneOS on it and use it as your full machine while wired to a display or three, sure.
Otherwise, in no world is $1100 for a cell phone anything but expensive.
Yes, iPhones are also expensive.
- garciasn 2mo agoIt’s $1800; they are applying trade-in and some sort of GoogleFi discount to get it down to $1100. Nearly $2000 after tax for a phone is fucking absurd.
- Grombobulous 2mo agoThat’s in the eye of the beholder. Folding phones are unique devices and the best tri-fold designs can legitimately replace a tablet. A whole lot of people use their phone as their primary and most-used device. I don’t think a high price is insane, it’s just that folks who consider them a utility and a side-device to a desktop computer tend not to feel that way. Many millennials and older who grew up with desktops and laptops probably can’t comprehend the idea of a phone being the only device or primary device. My iPhone was something like $1300 and I feel like it was worth every penny, and that a cheaper model did not meet my needs and wants.
- Grombobulous 2mo agoThe other thing I would say is that Pixels are just not high end hardware and they masquerade like they are. They get these insane launch sale deals like we are seeing now and the whole reason for that is because they aren’t competitive with true flagships. It’s just not really a flagship phone in terms of processor performance. I know Samsung has a lot more of their garbage software on it but I think if I was in the Android market I’d probably be inclined for a Samsung device over a Pixel. If I lived in Europe or Asia I’d be looking at something Chinese that’s not sold in the US market. Companies like Xiaomi and Huawei make way better phones than Google.
- microtonal 2mo agoSamsung also has these kinds of sales. A bunch of people on a forum I frequent had some Z Fold 8 just north of 1000 Euro with a trade in and by stacking coupons. Heck, even flagships like the S26 Ultra, which was introduced in March and still dominates the CPU, GPU, etc. charts are currently 500 Euro off in my country. Even discounted, Pixel have pretty bad prices compared to the competition. The primary reason to buy a Pixel is to run GrapheneOS. Otherwise, just get an iPhone or if you are willing to remove the bloat with UAD some Samsung phone.
- tpm 2mo agoFrom Europe, at this point I don't even look at Pixels because of their sad excuse of a battery. Just buying directly from China better phones for half the price. Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi are all good, others probably too, Huawei has nice hardware but due to US ban no usable Android.
- Grombobulous 2mo agoInteresting, I didn’t realize that the ban went that far — Google can’t even put Google Play on it for European customers then? I’m now recalling that Huawei does have their own OS that is not based on Android. In any event, your exact sentiment reflects my feelings. Honor, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, etc etc, what is the Pixel really getting you over those options?
- tpm 2mo agoHuawei has their HarmonyOS but still releases Android phones too for international markets - but these can't use Google Services, so they have their own services. If it's possible to somehow install google services I have no idea. Personally I would perhaps like to use or at least try Pixel's software (I've had some Google-software phones years ago, a Nexus I think? Maybe even some Pixel. And they were fine), but not on that HW.
- DANmode 2mo agoGoogle software has changed - a lot. It used to be very strong. Not today.