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The last few weeks I've been hearing a lot about flock cameras (?) even though I never heard of them before. Is this some mid term election strategy/divisive pl
by dr_kretyn 2mo ago
The last few weeks I've been hearing a lot about flock cameras (?) even though I never heard of them before. Is this some mid term election strategy/divisive plot? I'm not in us.
- shigawire 2mo agoPopular influencers have talked about them more recently. I think it also coincides with the zeitgeist of "oh yeah my local politics are important and affect my life" People are being awakened to that reality by the proliferation of data center projects where their local leaders green light projects that people feel will negatively impact their community.
- novia 2mo agoIt seems to be an issue that people care about on both sides of the political divide. I am an outlier in that I like them because they help catch kidnappers and help police be able to return stolen cars in time for the victim to make it to work in the morning, with no obligation to press charges. I haven't seen evidence of anyone else like me online or in real life.
- deadbunny 2mo agoSorry, saving one kid does not warrant living in a panopticon.
- novia 2mo agoIt's not one kid, the scale of applicability is massive. The word kidnapping here is misdirecting the conversation a bit, because it's not even usually kids, often it's like, human trafficking cases that involve adults, or missing persons reports. Like I said, my position is not popular. I think if you can get rid of the abuse from the police departments that have this tool, and it enables them to save people, it would be a good thing. Often when a car is stolen, it's stolen so someone can do a second crime with it. So reducing successful car theft has lots of good downstream effects. When I see posts online of people cutting down the cameras, it makes me feel like those people are pro-crime and anti-police rather than pro-privacy. To add a complication to my position: I have been to the UK, and I did not like all the CCTVs around. They were often pointed at places where pedestrians would be rather than at the roads tracking the cars. That felt invasive and intrusive. If present day Flock is just a stepping stone towards having that in the United States then my position on the matter would change.
- morkalork 2mo agoThey are rapidly expanding the network. The outrage you're seeing is proportional to that growth.
- __MatrixMan__ 2mo agoSome say it's being pushed by investors of Axon, its biggest competitor. I'm not sure I buy it though, the rage translates across brands too easily.