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The 2FA code you need to get from the phone app to log in on a desktop. It isn't 2005 any more.

by inigyou 3mo ago

stvltvs 3mo ago
Highly location dependent. This is more true in Europe than in America.
Aachen 3mo ago
Apparently I live in 2005 then? I do 2FA with the same chip+pin method that I use to pay in the store. Works in any browser
- patall 3mo ago
  Maybe that is possible in Germany. It is impossible here in Sweden. Or in other words: of course you can have mobile bankid without a smartphone, just use a tablet computer ;)
  - fsflover 3mo ago
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  - patall 3mo ago
    @fsflover: and my mobile phone provider. And my insurance. And my eletricity provider. And my housing associations customer portal. Getting doctors appointments. Mortgage. Union. National retirement savings account. Some of these may have some alternative left, but far too many you will be left out. Well, I can buy a train ticket without it, so I could still leave.
    - epihelix 3mo ago
      Do you mean to say that all these services require strong device integrity to function in Sweden?? In Australia, no local app that I'm aware of (banking, finance, government, medical) requires any form of device integrity - otherwise I couldn't use them. The only exception I've encountered is Google Wallet. I wonder why there would be such a difference in policy between countries, not only in government but across the private sector? This doesn't make any sense to me. If anything, I'd expect Sweden to have a more sensible, left wing attitude than Oz.
      - patall 3mo ago
        The comment that I was replying to was suggesting (to me) to live in sweden without mobile bankid (centralized 'banking' 2FA app on smartphone). I have here listed services that require said mobile bankid. Mobile bankid works for me and others on graphene os, but would likely not work on an arbitrary linux smartphone.
        fsflover 3mo ago
        Thanks for the explanation, it is more clear now. Some people manage to live without bankid it seems, but it's painful, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48339503 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48339503
jonathanstrange 3mo ago
Right, 2FA. My bank wants me to log in to my phone app and then sends an SMS to the same phone to confirm the app transaction. It's super-secure.
tcfhgj 3mo ago
my bank (and others) doesn't require the 2f to be a smartphone

The 2FA code you need to get from the phone app to log in on a desktop. It isn't 2005 any more.

by inigyou 3mo ago

The 2FA code you need to get from the phone app to log in on a desktop. It isn't 2005 any more.

stvltvs 3mo ago

Highly location dependent. This is more true in Europe than in America.

Aachen 3mo ago

Apparently I live in 2005 then? I do 2FA with the same chip+pin method that I use to pay in the store. Works in any browser

patall 3mo ago
Maybe that is possible in Germany. It is impossible here in Sweden. Or in other words: of course you can have mobile bankid without a smartphone, just use a tablet computer ;)
- fsflover 3mo ago
  [flagged]
- patall 3mo ago
  @fsflover: and my mobile phone provider. And my insurance. And my eletricity provider. And my housing associations customer portal. Getting doctors appointments. Mortgage. Union. National retirement savings account. Some of these may have some alternative left, but far too many you will be left out. Well, I can buy a train ticket without it, so I could still leave.
  - epihelix 3mo ago
    Do you mean to say that all these services require strong device integrity to function in Sweden?? In Australia, no local app that I'm aware of (banking, finance, government, medical) requires any form of device integrity - otherwise I couldn't use them. The only exception I've encountered is Google Wallet. I wonder why there would be such a difference in policy between countries, not only in government but across the private sector? This doesn't make any sense to me. If anything, I'd expect Sweden to have a more sensible, left wing attitude than Oz.
    - patall 3mo ago
      The comment that I was replying to was suggesting (to me) to live in sweden without mobile bankid (centralized 'banking' 2FA app on smartphone). I have here listed services that require said mobile bankid. Mobile bankid works for me and others on graphene os, but would likely not work on an arbitrary linux smartphone.
      - fsflover 3mo ago
        Thanks for the explanation, it is more clear now. Some people manage to live without bankid it seems, but it's painful, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48339503 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48339503

jonathanstrange 3mo ago

Right, 2FA. My bank wants me to log in to my phone app and then sends an SMS to the same phone to confirm the app transaction. It's super-secure.

tcfhgj 3mo ago

my bank (and others) doesn't require the 2f to be a smartphone