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> So you trusted 22-year-old coffee junkies copying and pasting from stack overflow 10 years ago Absolutely yes... The difference between those "22 year old co

by ryan_n 2mo ago

> So you trusted 22-year-old coffee junkies copying and pasting from stack overflow 10 years ago Absolutely yes... The difference between those "22 year old coffee junkies" and some dude prompting an LLM is that the 22 year olds from 10 years ago still had to actually use their brains. They thought of the problem, came up with possible solutions, architecture, software stack, implementation etc... Some of this undoubtedly was copy/paste from stack overflow, but in that process: googled/researched things, read results from google (blog posts, stack overflow posts, maybe even books). And in that process they actually learned about software development and mastered the craft. That isn't a thing with vibe coding, LLM's don't "care" about the project/software they build. Most vibe coders don't even care. I hate that I have to say this but inevitably people get mad if you don't: I'm not anti ai and LLM's are obviously useful in 2026. But I definitely have way more trust in software made the "old" way, by people who actually gave a shit, compared to software "written by" vibe coders.

orf 2mo ago
> LLM's don't "care" about the project/software they build. Most vibe coders don't even care The vast majority of software engineers, pre and post LLMs, don’t care.
- ryan_n 2mo ago
  That was not my experience pre LLM's working with other software devs. I acknowledge that not everyone that writes software cares, but the majority of people I worked with pre-LLM did actually care that the software they wrote was bug free and well written before making a PR. With LLM's people seem to just get claude to vomit up whatever, give a quick review (if that) and press merge. Not sure if using LLM's made people care less, gave people an excuse to care less, or actually just don't care and were faking it before (or some combination of the above).
  - orf 2mo ago
    I care about submitting reviewable code, because I care about my colleagues. That’s different from caring about the software you build.

by ryan_n 2mo ago

orf 2mo ago

> LLM's don't "care" about the project/software they build. Most vibe coders don't even care The vast majority of software engineers, pre and post LLMs, don’t care.

ryan_n 2mo ago
That was not my experience pre LLM's working with other software devs. I acknowledge that not everyone that writes software cares, but the majority of people I worked with pre-LLM did actually care that the software they wrote was bug free and well written before making a PR. With LLM's people seem to just get claude to vomit up whatever, give a quick review (if that) and press merge. Not sure if using LLM's made people care less, gave people an excuse to care less, or actually just don't care and were faking it before (or some combination of the above).
- orf 2mo ago
  I care about submitting reviewable code, because I care about my colleagues. That’s different from caring about the software you build.