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this seems inappropriate. I think its a bad paradigm that just because you use a platform's service, they get intimate details about your usage. And for them to

this seems inappropriate. I think its a bad paradigm that just because you use a platform's service, they get intimate details about your usage. And for them to be so bold about publishing the statistics they've stolen from their customers data? Gives me a reason to never recommend my org use this platform.

humbleharbinger 2mo ago
Uhh that's how a lot of economic data works too. Guess how we get a lot of jobs data... ADP
- sebiandev 2mo ago
  Oh hey! My industry. Guess what? ADP doesnt just yoink your data. ADP conducts voluntary surveys on the scale of hundreds of thousands. Voluntary. ADP also pays for it for the most part. Do you think Linear conducted..voluntary surveys here?
clintonb 2mo ago
The data is aggregated, and you cannot possibly identify a single user from what's been published. I see no issue here.
- whateveracct 2mo ago
  lol isn't this what google said and yet..the NSA cometh
- giraffe_lady 2mo ago
  I think their point is that there's business value in the usage data and linear is using that value in a way that benefits them but not the customers they got it from. It reminds me of matt levine's reframing of insider trading where it's not about fairness it's about theft. You're supposed to get secret insights and use them to get an edge. What you can't do is get an edge for yourself with secret insights that your employer got. So it roughly comes down to "that data is valuable and rightfully belongs to the originating company." Which then makes this a contract diligence type situation.
  - clintonb 2mo ago
    My company uses Linear. The data presented in this blog post is worthless to me and the company. It can be crudely summarized as “agents and agentic development processes are conducting more Linear operations.” Duh!
    - giraffe_lady 2mo ago
      Whether you make a good trade with the stolen information is spurious though. I don't believe this very strongly. Again it's a contract issue not a moral one. But the metaphor still holds I think.
  - inigyou 2mo ago
    https://archive.is/rVwku https://archive.is/rVwku - Matt Levine writing about insider trading
anon7000 2mo ago
I’d rather it was published for free in a blog post than sold without my knowledge. As a linear user. This shit doesn’t matter, everyone in the industry know these kinds of stats are being tracked, I’m happy for a company to be transparent about it.
- rightbyte 2mo ago
  Why would a company want to leak its processes and workflows to another company in a capitalist system. Seems sloppy and a short sighted transfer of wealth to external stockowners.

humbleharbinger 2mo ago

Uhh that's how a lot of economic data works too. Guess how we get a lot of jobs data... ADP

sebiandev 2mo ago
Oh hey! My industry. Guess what? ADP doesnt just yoink your data. ADP conducts voluntary surveys on the scale of hundreds of thousands. Voluntary. ADP also pays for it for the most part. Do you think Linear conducted..voluntary surveys here?

clintonb 2mo ago

The data is aggregated, and you cannot possibly identify a single user from what's been published. I see no issue here.

whateveracct 2mo ago
lol isn't this what google said and yet..the NSA cometh
giraffe_lady 2mo ago
I think their point is that there's business value in the usage data and linear is using that value in a way that benefits them but not the customers they got it from. It reminds me of matt levine's reframing of insider trading where it's not about fairness it's about theft. You're supposed to get secret insights and use them to get an edge. What you can't do is get an edge for yourself with secret insights that your employer got. So it roughly comes down to "that data is valuable and rightfully belongs to the originating company." Which then makes this a contract diligence type situation.
- clintonb 2mo ago
  My company uses Linear. The data presented in this blog post is worthless to me and the company. It can be crudely summarized as “agents and agentic development processes are conducting more Linear operations.” Duh!
  - giraffe_lady 2mo ago
    Whether you make a good trade with the stolen information is spurious though. I don't believe this very strongly. Again it's a contract issue not a moral one. But the metaphor still holds I think.
- inigyou 2mo ago
  https://archive.is/rVwku https://archive.is/rVwku - Matt Levine writing about insider trading

anon7000 2mo ago

I’d rather it was published for free in a blog post than sold without my knowledge. As a linear user. This shit doesn’t matter, everyone in the industry know these kinds of stats are being tracked, I’m happy for a company to be transparent about it.

rightbyte 2mo ago
Why would a company want to leak its processes and workflows to another company in a capitalist system. Seems sloppy and a short sighted transfer of wealth to external stockowners.