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Regardless of the motivation, pausing training runs and reallocating compute to inference seem like a good move to me, and big news for the frontier. You also
by reasonableklout 2mo ago
Regardless of the motivation, pausing training runs and reallocating compute to inference seem like a good move to me, and big news for the frontier.
You also don't have to fully trust sama. There is plenty of pressure from internal employees and external (journalists etc.). It would be difficult for the company to take such a public position and simultaneously keep everyone quiet if it was a deception.
- bottlepalm 2mo agoYou see it as good news, I see it as writing on the wall that they are losing control. These actions won't scale for more powerful models. We knew the frontier was going to be dangerous, it is, it only gets more dangerous from here, and no one cares until it's too late.
- reasonableklout 2mo agoOk, but you still have two more weeks than you did before they paused the run. That's two more weeks for independent oversight, organizing politically, patching critical systems, or whatever you think is the right move, no?
- bottlepalm 2mo agoTwo weeks is a joke. The only ones happy are OpenAI’s competitors who now have two weeks to catch up. I don’t know what the right move is - I see us driving down a road off a cliff, no exits, pedal glued to the floor.
- reasonableklout 2mo agoI guess I'm confused why you're still on HN, arguing with people, trying to shake them out of their complacency. I can see there is some despair in this comment, but at the same time you are doing something, and there are certainly others like you. As for two weeks being short - as the saying goes, there are weeks where decades happen.
- bottlepalm 2mo agoCounter arguments to my comments help refine my own thinking. I want someone to prove me wrong. Convince me otherwise. But yea if you can’t change the minds of a few people here, no argument works, then there’s nothing to scale up to a wider audience. My theory is that subconsciously people love using AI, myself included, it saves a lot of time, and the thought of it being taken away threatens people so they will believe conspiracies before admitting it’s dangerous.
- Eisenstein 2mo agoI will provide you with not a counter argument, but a way that it might not be the end of the world. AI never had a childhood; it doesn't experience greed and is terrible at game theory. It doesn't compete unless prompted to. It has been trained as much as possible to be harmless to humans and regard them as needing care. Maybe AI taking over for us isn't the worst thing?
- bottlepalm 2mo agoMaybe it is, maybe it isn't. All your little rationalizations make me think you want to roll the dice with our lives.
- Eisenstein 2mo agoMy little rationalizations? Do I have dice in my hands? You are doing more harm to your cause by making everything antagonistic.
- bottlepalm 2mo ago> Maybe AI taking over for us isn't the worst thing? Rolling over like this is so much worse, and unfortunately your fantasy made of pure hubris is shared by many in SV.
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