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It's worth pointing out the CrossClimate2 tires are all-seasons and exempt from the requirement. The 4/5 is specific to Consumer Reports all-season category - a
by legitster 2mo ago
It's worth pointing out the CrossClimate2 tires are all-seasons and exempt from the requirement. The 4/5 is specific to Consumer Reports all-season category - actual efficiency is going to be noticeably lower than the high efficiency tires they are talking about in the article.
But you're not wrong in general. There are a lot of garbage tires. And that's not even considering the intentionally "bad" tires like the knobby off-road treads that also have the side effect of massively increasing road noise and reducing engine life.
But like a lot of the California rules, they have carved out so many exceptions and have no real enforcement mechanism (the worst offending tires are being imported directly from China). So the reality is that there is not going to be a lot of juice for the squeeze.
- Lwerewolf 2mo agoYou just need social stigma on bad tires. It's the single most important thing on your vehicle, for literally all the reasons out there.
- KetoManx64 2mo agoRight after we have a social stigma for people that keep voting to have the government involved in every bit of their lives.
- ahartmetz 2mo agoHow about when the market fails customers, still no government involvement? Food and drugs regulation, environment stuff (you are here) and so on?
- KetoManx64 2mo agoThe US military-industrial complex is the single largest institutional hydrocarbon consumer and greenhouse gas emitter on the planet. It would be pretty stupid for me to listen to the government's advice about how best we should preserve the environment.
- dhathorn 2mo agoChina has been the largest ghg emitter for the last 20 years, and currently emits more than twice as much as the us. Gdp spent on defense is similar as a fraction of gdp (slightly more in the us). So realistically the Chinese military is by far a larger emitter of ghg than the us military.
- fellowniusmonk 2mo agoSo the issue is under regulation, yeah, agree on that point. Sounds like the only reasonable solution to the problem you raise is that the part of our government that's responsible for defense should be put under the seperate part that is responsible for protecting our environment instead of being exempt. I can't see any other real way of resolving that issue can you?
- KetoManx64 2mo agoBecause government self regulation totally works and the resources used up and the size of the government has not grown by such magnitudes that would make the founding fathers rethink the whole idea of democracy?
- fellowniusmonk 2mo agoOk, so no particular disagreement or pragmatic pitched alternative, great! I agree, structurally improved government and regulations is the only definable way forward for me too.
- letmehelpyou 2mo ago[dead]
- DANmode 2mo agoWe can’t successfully shame each other to avoid Hot Pockets and big brands of cereal that acutely poison our kids. You think people are going to tread-peek?! I agree with you, but we’re both going to be disappointed.
- lazide 2mo agoI've tried social stigma on lack-of-using-turn-signals, and have been about as disappointed as you are likely to be hah.