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When they do that they pay billions . Unlike China. That’s the order of law vs bunch of companies in a totalitarian government
by maxdo 2mo ago
When they do that they pay billions . Unlike China. That’s the order of law vs bunch of companies in a totalitarian government
- alightsoul 2mo agoThey are not paying billions anymore. They just switched to buying and then destroying books. Arguably that's worse than training off of Anna's archive which Chinese companies still do. This comment is another example of American exceptionalism.
- maxdo 2mo agoThey paid $1.5 billions in July . Keep ignoring facts and believe in some nonsense
- alightsoul 2mo agoThat was a one time payment. Another example of America exceptionalism assuming its a periodic payment like paying rent. look how they give money to publishers who then give back crumbs to the authors themselves.
- maxdo 2mo agoWho told you it’s periodic ? To find a stolen book in llm is very easy . And if you break same rules twice any judge will fine you more for that . You break you pay . That’s why in the western world you got book publishers . They have lawyers etc . If you prefer Chinese way : laugh at anyone who is taking about copyright , whether that a book , a model , or manufacturing secrets in eu , us or whatever sure . A family business of my friend in eu was destroyed due to stealing until every single bolt position design of their system by China . They had no legal protection . Keep calling rule of law vs no such rules an American exceptionalism .
- jimbob45 2mo agoCan you really hold them responsible for book burning when they’re being compelled to do so by governmental laws? Seems like you should be pointing your finger at lawmakers, if anywhere.
- alightsoul 2mo agoMe? A lowly commoner without hundreds of millions to lobby them? Why aren't American ai companies doing so? Too busy training models? They're shooting themselves in the foot when they could just use Anna's archive and lobbying is cheaper than paying billions in copyright settlements. Oh wait I am wrong. Shredding and scanning books is much cheaper than lobbying to use Anna's archive. Still can't do anything because I don't have money for lobbying
- brazukadev 2mo agoshouldn't you be pointing fingers at lawmakers and not to OP?
- maxdo 2mo agoYou pay royalties to your publisher . They monitor situation , if a model has unfair amount of context about the book they bring you to court . Once they win they spread some money between owners + keep some money to fight future violations on the scale since it’s profitable for book publishers. It’s economically lucrative for everyone in that chain to attack again and again ai vendors , unless they are in China . In this case they can only cry .
- maxdo 2mo agoYou know that buying a book vs buying a license is a very different purchase right ? And it does not work legally this way . Stop spreading made up stories